Back in 1989 and 1990 I was into Model 1851 and 1861 Colt Navy Revolvers.

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The '51 Colt Navy shown in the lower photo is a martial '51 Navy U.S. marked on the frame and 'M.M.' inspector's cartouche (M. Moulton) on the left grip manufactured in 1857.
Serial number 73501.




The '61 Colt Navy is shown on the top of the photo serial number 3830 ---early 1861 production.



David
 
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NorthCoastBig Bore,

I still have the '61 (1989) and '51 Colt Navies (1990). (.36 cal.)

My first CW revolver shown below purchased in 1971---Remington New Model Army.(.44 cal.)



My second CW revolver---some time after 1971----Model 1858 Starr DA Army revolver.(.44 cal.)









Model 1849 Colt Pocket revolver manufactured in 1855 (.31 cal.)----purchased April 1994.



Model 1860 Colt army revolver (mfg'd early 1862) purchased in June 2001 in Gettysburg. (.44 cal.) Serial number 92346.



Serial numbers and barrel address on this 1860 Colt.








Model 1862 Colt Police (.36 cal.)---Mfg'd in 1863----Purchased in 2006.



Manhattan --Model: Navy Revolver, Series I, serial number 3601.
Caliber: .36 Caliber
Serial Number Range: approx. 1 to 4200
Manufacturing date: Early 1859 to January 1860.
Purchased in August 2006 with the Model 1862 Colt Police revolver.




My last CW addition (Sept 2013) -Remington-Rider D/A New Model Belt Revolver (.36 cal.)
Fluted cylinder models earliest production. C1863-1865.
Full fluted cylinder found on 3-digit or lower numbered specimens, estimated at few hundred produced. (As per Flayderman)



David
 
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Win 38-55.

Collecting U.S. Civil War stuff as a Canadian has been an interesting ride.

Shown below are some of the long arms and carbines.
Along with this collecting period come the sabres and bayonets....which has also been interesting. (I have a bunch of them)

Lots to learn.

David


U.S. Model 1841 (Mississippi rifle) manufactured by Whitney in 1848. (purchased in July 1994)



M1855 sabre bayonet for the rifle above. (Purchased in March 1995)






U.S. Model 1842 .69 cal smooth bore musket manufactured by Harpers Ferry in 1843. (purchased in 2006)



This is quite an early lock plate date marking on these Harpers Ferry Model 1842s. (lock dated 1843)



The following commentary is from Joe Bilby (columnist from The Civil War Times publication following my questions to him on March 13 2006.)

Joe is the author of many gun books and regimental history works from this period
and was very helpful to me when I was debating purchasing this gun.

 "Widely used in the first two years of the war by both sides, and used by certain regiments, like those of the Irish Brigade and the 12th NJ, who preferred it, into late 1864. The 12th's Gettysburg monument is as much to the '42 as to the regiment. It is topped with a large sphere and three smaller ones, with the line "buck and ball."

This is not my .69 Cal "buck and ball cartridge".




.69 calibre round ball, or , “buck and ball” that was a .69 round ball with three rounds of buckshot.


On March 30 2006 I purchased a bayonet for this musket that came from the Baltimore Antique Arms Show in March 2006. The price was $400 USD or $455 Cdn. The bayonet which is marked” U.S” over “C” over “17” on the blade flat is a U.S Bayonet Model 1835 it came in a Regulation Pattern of 1839 Scabbard. This scabbard was normally carried in a shoulder belt (baldric) as opposed to being carried on the belt with a frog. This is the correct bayonet for the U.S. Model 1842 Musket, with a correct early scabbard.

CRAZY prices in the U.S. for this stuff at that time!






Pattern 1853 Enfield rifle musket in .58 caliber-not .577 (Lock plate dated 1861) (purchased in 1994)



25 bore is .577 cal.-----24 bore is .58 cal.



U.S. Model 1861 rifle musket (Wm Muir Contract 1863) (purchased in 1993)



Sharps New Model 1863 carbine (purchased 1990)---Smith Carbine (purchased in 1993)---Spencer Model 1860 carbine (purchased in 1990)


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The two principal cavalry sabres used by the U.S. cavalry during the Civil War.
Model 1840 (the wrist breaker) and the Model 1860---somewhat lighter.
The Model 1840 on top. (Both of these sabres were manufactured by Ames.)



The Model 1840 I am very pleased with.
It came from a CW dealer in North Carolina.

Dated 1845 ...it is the first year that Ames manufactured this Model 1840 sabre.
These swords served during the Mexican/American War as well as the U.S. Civil War.



On the pommel, one of the inspector's markings is WAT ---for William Anderson Thornton whose inspector's markings are seen on many guns of that period.





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Civil War skin (treated paper) cartridges.

The J&D patent (#33,393 - October 1, 1861) was issued for "an improvement in envelopes for cartridges" and the cartridges made under this patent were officially called "Johnson and Dow's Combustible and Water Proof Cartridges".

The patent calls for a cartridge case of gun-cotton, paper, cloth or other fabric or texture treated with any nitrate and an oxygenating salt to make it "highly inflammable and instantly combustible"...

The finished cartridge was dipped in collodion (also highly inflammable) to make it waterproof.

In addition to the durability of these cartridges, tests and actual field use indicated that the cartridges were easier to load, since no tearing was required and the whole cartridge was simply placed in the bore. One regimental commander later wrote that the regiment adjacent to his on the firing line had been equipped with J&D cartridges and were able to fire three shots for every two of his own regiment.

The first J&D cartridges for .58 cal rifle musket were ordered by the Federal government on March 24, 1862. Cartridges using the J&D patent were also produced by Elam O. Potter in both rifle musket and revolver calibers.

Julius Hotchkiss patented the skin cartridge, which D.C. Sage (and a few others) manufactured; again waterproof by the nature of the skin. Again the power of the percussion cap penetrates the skin and ignites the powder. Some of the .44 cal. Army packets were labelled “Waterproof Skin Cartridges.”

The patented cartridge by Doctors Doremus and Budd had a powder envelope formed by pressing the powder into molds under high tonnage, attaching them to bullets, and then dipping them into collodion, which waterproofed them, is extremely flammable and easily ignited with a percussion cap.

The combustible cartridges allowed quickness in loading, firing and being waterproof, became useful in the field. You didn’t need good teeth to tear them open and unnecessary handling.

NOT MY PHOTOS OF THESE CARTRIDGES. (For info only)





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Some of my CW stuff.

 
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By gum! Another feast for the eyes! It sure would be interesting to find out where all those old guns saw action. Great pieces of history.
 
Thanks for posting all that.

I have a long way to go learning wise on the subject. Had at least one direct relative in the Civil War (but only recently learned of his involvement), so it's an interesting subject for me personally. But like I say, I've not had time to really dive into it. So I surely do enjoy seeing the equipment.
 
oldiron, thanks for your comments.

“you must spend a bit of time finding the higher condition and original items you are looking for”.

My first CW purchase was made in 1971….the last one in Sept 2013.
I guess that might be considered “a bit of time”

At one point I was having a tough time finding nice CW pieces in my immediate market and I was not prepared to venture into the U.S. market to any great degree because of the prices there for decent CW pieces.

I have three CW pieces in my collection that were purchased in the U.S.

That caused me to branch off into collecting WWII stuff….mostly German….some American and Russian.

In December 2011 I was after U.S. Winchester WWII M97 Trench Guns.

NOTE;
One of these two guns was purchased by a member of CGN.










I still like the CW collecting period but my collecting has slowed down substantially.
It all depends on what I trip over…..I don’t go looking.

My last two collection additions (of old guns) were as a result of straight trades for WWII pieces.

In April 2013 I acquired ‘via a trade’ a cased London Colt ‘49 with some interesting family history that has nothing to do with the U.S. Civil War.
I thought it was an interesting piece.
This is the only London Colt that I own….and the only cased pistol in my collection.

I suspect that we collectors go through these changing chapters over time.

David

The London Colt---Model 1849 Pocket revolver---manufactured in 1854.











NOTE;

In April 1994 I acquired an American Model 1849 Colt Pocket revolver with the New York City barrel address. Manufactured in 1855-serial number 101792. (Also shown above.)







Model 1849 Colt Pocket revolver, 5 inch barrel, New York barrel address, S/n 101792 manufactured in 1955



SO ----a London Colt 49 and a U.S Colt 49.....I am done with this model.
I don't want every barrel length that Colt ever manufactured.....I will never live that long.
 
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Pattern 1863 holster –used with both the 58 Remington and 1860 Colt Army revolvers.
Purchased from an older CW collector in the U.S. that was liquidating his collection in March 2005.

Marked E.###lord, Chicopee Mass.




Collecting Civil War leather accoutrements is also another dimension that adds its own challenges.
Finding leather bayonet or sword scabbards (ammunition boxes) in good condition is not always that easy.

Nice leather CW bayonet scabbards....hard to find!



This belt and bayonet rig for the M1841 rifle is 'not mine'



Model 1850 Foot Officers sword.



The two swords shown below are Model 1840 Musicians swords.
The two socket bayonets with scabbards fit 'most' of the CW U.S. rifle muskets.



For whatever reason I ended up with two Model 1840 Musicians swords.
(I guess that I am an old musician at heart.)

One was manufactured by C. Roby in 1863, the other by Ames in 1864.
I think that CW musicians did more than play music for the troops.....stretcher bearers etc.










There were two variations of the Model 1855 socket bayonet for 'most' of the U.S. rifle muskets with a different clamping mechanism.....this is one of them.




This Dahlgren knife bayonet... (named after Admiral John A. Dahlgren, U.S. Navy)... one of two bayonets associated with the Whitney Model 1861 Percussion Navy ("Plymouth") .69 caliber Rifle.




Carbine and pistol cartridge boxes.
Marked J. DAVEY & CO NEWARK NJ (Faint marking on front flap)--carbine box.(Left)

Makers name on inside flap of pistol box (faint) perhaps “###LORD CHICOPEE MASS.” (Right)




CIVIL WAR CARBINE SOCKET “THIMBLE”

Used to support the cavalry carbine, it was attached to the saddle and prevented the
gun from swinging wildly when the horse was moving. Used in both the Civil War and during the Indian War period.



A bayonet for the P53 Enfield rifle musket, showing a buff coloured frog and a black stained frog.




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Other Civil War related pieces picked up over the years.

Civil War period US liquor flask manufactured by W.T. FRY and Company of New York. This clear glass flask has a blackish leather protective jacket, threaded pewter cap and a removable pewter base which serves as a drinking vessel (It might be silver?). The numerous markings are as follows;
”W.T.FRY NEW YORK”, flask bottom (embossed in the glass).
“WT&C”, stylized manufacturers’ logo,
Base of vessel (stamped).”W.T. FRY’S PATENT OCTOBER 20 1863”
Rim of spout (stamped) “W.T.FRY & CO NEW YORK”, cap (stamped).
Cap also carries the message;” TOP WARRANTED/NOT TO LEAK OR COME OFF”.
Purchased May 2001.

Officers’ collapsible Pewter Drinking Cup
With Japanned tin storage container.
Purchased Nov 14 1993








CIVIL WAR FIFE (B-FLAT)
Marked U.S. 1862
Purchased 1995.







David
 
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Thanks Tinman204.

Various gun tools, '58 Remington cylinder, .44 cal Colt bullet mold.



Some of the gun tools shown above.

U.S. Model 1863 Combination Gun Tool-
Has been modified on the fold out screwdriver blade---- a “V” notch has been cut out the screwdriver blade. Purchased at Cornwall show 1992 for $12.

U.S. Model 1841/1842 Musket Combination Tool—Large US stamped on front side of tool, probably a contract manufactured piece. Purchased $10 at Mtl show 1993.
Ref. Pages 153 ,154, 155, in Gun Tools Book

Same as piece above, except, small U.S.
Which denotes Harpers Ferry Mfg. It came
With 1861 Muir Rifle Musket.

Springfield Armory conversion of Model 1863 combination tool for Spencer rifle & carbine.
Post civil war tool for Spencer conversions of 1860 & 1865 Models. The hole in the tool is for a carrying thong.
NOTE: The longer Spencer tool with the hole is the civil war Model. Purchased 1993
See reference page 91&92 in “Gun Tools” book.

The Book.....PUBLISHED IN 1992.


Civil War bullets.



Colt marked bullet mold for a .31 cal. Colt Model 1849 Pocket revolver. (This is Hartford Colt with a New York City barrel address serial number 101792 manufactured in 1855.)






Conical bullets and balls that came with the cased London '49 Colt.
Also shown is the nipple wrench and British cap tin.




The cased London Colt '49....the case also included a cleaning rod and a replacement main spring.





James Dixon & Sons Sheffield marked powder flask.


The case also included a cleaning rod and a spare main spring.



The key and the lock on the case still work perfectly.



A book published in 1994 regarding Colt Percussion Accoutrements---1834-1873.

It deals with many aspects of this subject.....including bullet molds.




For they that are interested---a Book on London Colts. (Published in 1976.)



"The London-made pocket pistol enjoyed a very brief manufacturing life in comparison with its Hartford counterpart; and although its entire three-year production did not exceed the production figures for any single year of the Hartford pistol, its numerous variations and innovations make it a most desirable addition to any collection".
Ref; Joseph G. Rosa.

1854 Estimated production 5,000 Serial numbers 1001-6,000.
The London Colt shown below is a Fourth Model ---serial number 3222.





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Thanks for your comment Win 38-55.

I am not purchasing any new pieces.
I started collecting in the 1960s and at this point I am only interested in trades.

My last two additions of “old guns”-----the cased London ‘49 Colt and the Remington-Rider DA New Model Belt revolver came by way of straight trades for two rather nice pieces out of my U.S. WWII collection.



David

My last two "old gun" trades--April and September 2013.

 
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