BadboyBeeson's orange magtube followers

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Last friday I received two of Badboy Beeson's machined Delrin mag tube followers.
Well, let me say that's first class stuff!
Fit, finish and quality of machining are excellent. They work as they are supposed to and do nothing else. And that's what I am expecting from such an item.
When I compare these to the usual plastic bottle caps you find in almost all shotguns, these ones are built to last.
Better yet, the follower's tail actually helps the spring coil around it in a smooth fashion.
If I can find something I'd like to see on these, it would be a slight chamfering of the tail's tip where it initiates contact with the spring wire.
But this is probably superfluous.
Thanks BadBoy!
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Just curious, why did you get them? For aesthetics? Replacement for broken ones? Custom build?

I too don't like the very thin orange bottlecaps. I went with the vang comp stainless followers, but only cause stainless trumps plastic IMO and it is the pimpin'est is a marine magnum. I've yet to see or hear of one going bad despite the cheap flimsy construction of them.
 
Many reasons why you'd want this type of follower in your gun.

The longer neck helps the spring to prevent kinking and jamming in the tube where the mag extension is attached, the high-viz color is visually recognizable with a quick glance, the bump in the centre of the follower makes for easier recognition in the dark by feel alone, the delrin quality allows for self lubrication so it slides with ease without maintenance, ... and in comparison to the stainless, it's made of ligther material, and a galling effect isn't produced between the tube and stainless follower when you use it often enough.

ETA: ... and BBBs particular magazine follower has slots on the sides to fit through an 870 mag tube WITH the dimples. Aside from the cheezy factory REM one, no other magazine follower, fits 870 mag tubes with the dimples and allow you to take advantage of the qualities mentioned above. -- I think this alone is worth the minor cost of this little innovation.

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... If I can find something I'd like to see on these, it would be a slight chamfering of the tail's tip where it initiates contact with the spring wire.
But this is probably superfluous....

This could be an important factor (but you should know better) for if you drop the follower into the tube and then apply the spring behind it, the spring may not slide over the neck of the follower, but rest on top of it. Especially the Wolff extra power springs with the narrowed ends. That would not be good. Food for thought. :)
 
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EASY. Fair enough. Thanks for the input but respectfully I doubt many of your assertions.

The longer neck helps the spring to prevent kinking and jamming in the tube where the mag extension is attached,

The tube (at least in my 870s) are too narrow to allow any kinking at all, regardless of the "neck" of the mag cap. As for jamming, any neck including the original and the VAN stainless ones will prevent that. I do not see an improvement at all from the delrin one to anything other model in these regard. I call bull####.

the high-viz color is visually recognizable with a quick glance
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The original did that fine and a quick coat of coloured paint or nail polish will do that on the stainless. But I'll give credit the colour is already on and permanently throughout the delrin one and can't flake off, so point to you.

the bump in the centre of the follower makes for easier recognition in the dark by feel alone,

The hole in the stainless does the same thing. It is also hard to mistake by feel the feel of the back of a 12gauge brass base and a plastic end piece, but I suppose it would be a small more obvious improvement over the original.

the Delrin quality allows for self lubrication so it slides with ease without maintenance

OK. Sounds nice. But I've never had either jam on me. Nor have I heard of one doing so. I also know of no one who does "maintenance" on their end cap, other that keeping it clean and dry. Sounds like a solution without a problem.

and in comparison to the stainless, it's made of ligther material

[sarcasm]You must have a mighty big shovel to dig that deep. So your saying it is worth it for the weight. Your .001 oz to my .002 oz. WOW that sure is an improvement.[/sarcasm]

and a galling effect isn't produced between the tube and stainless follower when you use it often enough.

I'll give you a maybe on this one, but according to wikipedia "It usually does not occur when joining dissimilar materials" and it also looks like there has to be pressure and friction to cause this effect. A mag follower will have virtually no force applied against the mag tube as the spring tension is only applied in the direction of the magazine. Most of all, even if there were a galling effect on some level, I do not believe for a second that it could be enough to roughen up a mag follower or tube enough to jam it. I've NEVER heard of it and I've looked.


and BBBs particular magazine follower has slots on the sides to fit through an 870 mag tube WITH the dimples. Aside from the cheezy factory REM one, no other magazine follower, fits 870 mag tubes with the dimples and allow you to take advantage of the qualities mentioned above.

Agreed. Sounds like an excellent idea. Not to argue here, just some food for thought, could the mag follower twist in mag tube so the slots fall out of alignment with the "dimples". Wouldn't the better solution, if using a mag extension be to get rid of the dimples. (Better yet, but a factory no dimples model! :D)

I think this alone is worth the minor cost of this little innovation.

I don't think anyone here NEEDS to justify cost about anything. You want it, go get it. I think it is great that BBB is making parts and accessories for us. He does us all a great service and the price is minimal. I wish him nothing but success. I only put forth my opinions/questions/contradictions for the sake of knowledge, and hopefully honesty.

I bought mine for aesthetics of the stainless on nickel and the feel of quality from a this cheap feeling cap to a nice sturdy steel one. But I don't believe that I got an ounce of functionality out of it. Just my 2c.
 
The tube (at least in my 870s) are too narrow to allow any kinking at all, regardless of the "neck" of the mag cap. As for jamming, any neck including the original and the VAN stainless ones will prevent that. I do not see an improvement at all from the delrin one to anything other model in these regard. I call bulls**t.
You're not reading what I say correctly. I was referring to the area where the extension screws into the magazine tube. That area is prone to jamming without the proper follower. It's a fact. There is a lot of discussion on this you could search on US forums.

The hole in the stainless does the same thing. It is also hard to mistake by feel the feel of the back of a 12gauge brass base and a plastic end piece, but I suppose it would be a small more obvious improvement over the original.
Some people are used to a certain feel under their thumb. The dimple in the follower has been around for many years found on the Wilson Combat follower, so most are used to one of those. All other followers aren't enough of a difference to realize as easily you're empty ... especially under duress.

OK. Sounds nice. But I've never had either jam on me. Nor have I heard of one doing so. I also know of no one who does "maintenance" on their end cap, other that keeping it clean and dry. Sounds like a solution without a problem.
Many owners are barely weekend sportsmen. Their cheezy follower is sure to last a lifetime. The ones who trust their gun with their life in harms way would have a different opinion. Crawl through mud with your gun for a few days, you'll change your mind.

[sarcasm]You must have a mighty big shovel to dig that deep. So your saying it is worth it for the weight. Your .001 oz to my .002 oz. WOW that sure is an improvement.[/sarcasm]
Let me guess, you've never humped a load a long distance to know how many pounds and ounce weighs. :D

I'll give you a maybe on this one, but according to wikipedia ...
I lost respect for you right after the word "wikipedia". Though I will say, however little, there is more wear going on with the stainless follower than the delrin one. And it damages the inside of your tube as well. But anyway ...

Agreed. Sounds like an excellent idea. Not to argue here, just some food for thought, could the mag follower twist in mag tube so the slots fall out of alignment with the "dimples". Wouldn't the better solution, if using a mag extension be to get rid of the dimples. (Better yet, but a factory no dimples model! :D)
Again you're not reading carefully. Some people don't want to add an extension to their Express Magnum. Nor do they want to bubba the dimples. Simon's follower fits the factory Express and other dimpled guns without modification. Catfeesh? :D

I don't think anyone here NEEDS to justify cost about anything. You want it, go get it. I think it is great that BBB is making parts and accessories for us. He does us all a great service and the price is minimal. I wish him nothing but success. I only put forth my opinions/questions/contradictions for the sake of knowledge, and hopefully honesty.
So put forth some moola and buy a few from BBB to show your support.

I bought mine for aesthetics of the stainless on nickel and the feel of quality from a this cheap feeling cap to a nice sturdy steel one. But I don't believe that I got an ounce of functionality out of it. Just my 2c.
I do believe that for a marine magnum, your stainless follower is the cats ass. If you notice, the inside of your magazine tube is also coated, so wear for you will be minimal. The aesthetics are better too, seeing you're all bling. ;)
 
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This is a good post guy keep it going, peopel should re read easy,s post he really know what hes talking about.

Hears something else to think of.
Our follower does not need to be oiled and will never rust.
Will not fail due to cleaning oils.
I have talked to some combat shotgun builders and they have had many issues with wilson and vang plastic followers as they are molded and are of softer plastic.
Still alot better then the factory steel or plastic follower, but for a police shotgun that is loaded up and unloaded from 14 to30 times a week the follower does not last.
Our follower is CNC milled for 2" bar stock Dupont Delrin, a hard yet very slippery plastic that does no get affected buy oils or cleaners.
Somthing a dealer posted in a US fourm.

wilson and hans Vang follower plastic $7-8 USD
SJ hardware Delrin follower $11USD
Vang stainless follower $20-$22USD
Factory remington plastic $3.50 USD
 
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This is a good post guy keep it going, peopel should re read easy,s post he really know what hes talking about.

+1 easy is a 870 guru. His word is gold on this topic. BBB's follower is the cat's ass. I've been meaning to place an order for one. It'll go so nicely with my S&J sling mount! BBB, PM inbound!
 
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Thanksalot alot guys.
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Dupont Delrin has to be one of my Fav' plastic products these days.

I'll be adding some of these mag tube followers to my list of things to buy. :)
 
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