Barnes TSX and TTSX questions
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I talked to Randy Barnes on the phone about the early x bullets not opening on game and he admitted they were have issues with the copper hardness many years ago.I have a .270/130gr with rifling marks on it you could load again that went lengthways through a 7x7 mulie at 150 yards.Texas heartshot found in the brisket.This problem is long since solved.
Do you want to put that energy into the dirt behind the animal or the animal itself?
Also remember , guy are dropping weights to keep velocities up so these bullet "work"
Lead always works.
Lead bullets have velocity restrictions too - too slow they don't expand right, too fast they don't penetrate enough (especially if they're not bonded), and then you've got lead fragments in your meat...
There is no singular perfect bullet, it's all a matter of which compromises you are willing to make.
I'm trying the Hornady gmx this year. I leave on Friday so hopefully I can get a chance to try them out soon!
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Swift a frame, and a Barnes that failed to open much. A PH I use in Namibia doesn't like the Barnes much in big slow calibers, he has a few recovered that didn't open, and not old bullets either. Most are not recovered as they pencil through. The swift Aframes have a good reputation of opening for the big calibers. 
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Pretty close. It's a rapidly expanding and fragmenting practically varmint bullet with an expanded bullet tied to it's ass. If the first one don't getcha then the next one will. There is also a virtual certainty that it will do the same thing every time. The bullet that all others are judged against
does every time what a decent cup and core does most of the time. And a mono bullet never does.
Animals don't weigh a bullet to find out if they are dead or not.
Do you want to put that energy into the dirt behind the animal or the animal itself?
Also remember , guy are dropping weights to keep velocities up so these bullet "work"
Lead always works.
OP loading a Bee, velocity should be no problem...
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I think one should go with the projectile with the broadest range of usable velocities vs expansion vs construction.The bullets on either end of that spectrum are a) hollow/point varmint bullets and b)mono metals.
On game performance is far from predictable so I say choose the bullet with the largest margin for error , to me, a partitioned or boned or combination of the two.
Like dogleg said, that bullet with a caboose on it's tail is one that others are compared to.
I always figured that was because it was one of the first premium bullets on the market, not because its the best per say.
I don't really disagree with what else you said, I shot my spring bear with a Hornady Interbond, and a blind man could have followed that blood trail (which didn't go 20 feet). I'm using a different rifle for my moose hunt though, and I had a box of 139gr GMX on the shelf. I have young kids, so the lead free factor has some appeal to it. If I am unimpressed with these I'll be switching back to a lead bonded bullet, because as you say they just work.
Man I totally missed that part! If ever there was a time to say "Pics or it didn't happen!" lol
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I’ve said it before on here, I like Barnes. When you look in an outfitter’s meat locker and see giant holes cut out of animals from lead contamination and ones shot with monos intact up to the bullet hole you will to. Their Achilles heel is they need speed and fast twist rates so like others have said you may have to shed weight in order to maintain speed and control at operating distance which can be a potential problem for smaller diameter projectiles.
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I'll post it again.
Here is a mule deer taken at ~250 yards using a 30-06 and 168 gr TTSX. Impact velocity would have been ~2300 fps. Expansion seemed adequate to me.
Moose taken with a 210 TTSX out of a 338-06 at ~200 yards. Again good expansion with modest impact velocity.
Moose taken with a 210 TTSX out of a 338-06 at ~200 yards. Again good expansion with modest impact velocity.
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We - my daughter and I - have shot close to 2 dozen deer, moose, and bear using the Triple Shocks at varying distances. None have failed yet. How many animals have you shot using a TSX or TTSX?
Most of the internet "facts" I suspect are animals that got away due to poor bullet placement or outright misses.
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Nobody is saying they don’t work within the window of parameters , some bullets just have a wider range of velocities that work.
It's easy to check what distance you can expect reliable expansion. Check your velocity from a ballistic table.
