BC Hunter who shot support dog fined and banned

Simple solution. Dog walking businesses who wish to put ten or so dogs off leash in the woods during hunting season should outfit all dogs with orange. The story the woman has told has changed a few times and she was not in sight of the shooter or dog when the dog was shot. Both parties here were negligent a-holes to some degree, the shooter criminally negligent she just a complete twit as well but with no criminal responsibility but she's the one who lost her prized dog.

It's like walking across a street or driving a motorcycle, the day you are complacent and feel safe enough to believe that laws will keep you safe and it's the responsibility and onus of others to keep you or your pets/property safe then bad things will happen to you. Legal recourse after the fact don't mean much when you or your pet is dying in a ditch somewhere.
 
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fattz said:
So if I'm reading you right you want to shoot the dogs?if this is the case then you are one wacked mf who is lucky if one of the neighbours doesn't do the same to you. After reading your post only one word comes to mind Goof.
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Lmfao...sorry to burst your bubble there snowflake, but many dogs have been legally shot by landowners for trespassing and harassing livestock, and rightly so.

While this is unfortunate, the onus is on the owner to minimize any risk of his animal being shot while on public land where you do not know who may or may not be out there. That includes visible (orange vest) and audible (bell/beeper) warnings and/or a leash. It doesn't matter if there's an open hunting season or not.

Taking 10 dogs on "pack walks", where I assume all dogs are off leash, in the forest is both irresponsible and likely as illegal as it is here in Ontario.
 
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This thread isn't about dogs running livestock. Somebody's pet got shot in a no hunting zone period. Keep it on topic. The guy is making hunters look bad. Yes there are irresponsible dog owners but this thread is about the irresponsible hunter. Pretty simple really.
 
pete dobinson said:
This thread isn't about dogs running livestock. Somebody's pet got shot in a no hunting zone period. Keep it on topic. The guy is making hunters look bad. Yes there are irresponsible dog owners but this thread is about the irresponsible hunter. Pretty simple really.
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Agreed, but dog owners have a sense of entitlement about them, that's just not valid.

https://www.rmotoday.com/kananaskis-country/court-bans-four-off-leash-dogs-from-k-country-1856992

Grizz
 
Grizzly Adams said:
Agreed, but dog owners have a sense of entitlement about them, that's just not valid.

https://www.rmotoday.com/kananaskis-country/court-bans-four-off-leash-dogs-from-k-country-1856992

Grizz
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I'm a dog owner as you can tell by my avatar. My dogs are part of my family, I consider myself a responsible dog owner and I do not have a sense of entitlement about my dogs. When I walk my dog out in a public area, out in the bush, I regularly let my dog run off leash and my dog isn't causing any problems, I meet lots of dog owners that do the same. I'm not expecting an idiot, "I have to call him an idiot because he definitely isn't a hunter" to come along and shoot my dog. We all got rights to public land and we need to respect those rights. The guy got charged and he paid the price, I think he should have got more. He's lucky he didn't shoot my dog.
 
pete dobinson said:
I'm a dog owner as you can tell by my avatar. My dogs are part of my family, I consider myself a responsible dog owner and I do not have a sense of entitlement about my dogs. When I walk my dog out in a public area, out in the bush, I regularly let my dog run off leash and my dog isn't causing any problems, I meet lots of dog owners that do the same. I'm not expecting an idiot, "I have to call him an idiot because he definitely isn't a hunter" to come along and shoot my dog. We all got rights to public land and we need to respect those rights. The guy got charged and he paid the price, I think he should have got more. He's lucky he didn't shoot my dog.
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Rules call for dogs to be leashed for good reasons on public land, primarily wildlife harassment. How do you control your dog when he's loose ? :confused: I sense your entitlement here . I've got no patience with dogs who chase squirrels, grouse , or deer.


Grizz
 
Grizzly Adams said:
Rules call for dogs to be leashed for good reasons on public land, primarily wildlife harassment. How do you control your dog when he's loose ? :confused: I sense your entitlement here . I've got no patience with dogs who chase squirrels, grouse , or deer.


Grizz
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You really jump to conclusions don't you. You know nothing about me or my dog. For your information, my dog will walk right past a deer she is so docile. What's this about chasing squirrels are you some kind of nut. lol
 
Grizzly Adams said:
Rules call for dogs to be leashed for good reasons on public land, primarily wildlife harassment. How do you control your dog when he's loose ? :confused: I sense your entitlement here . I've got no patience with dogs who chase squirrels, grouse , or deer.


Grizz
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Oh come on.... dogs were born to chase squirrels.
 
Grizzly Adams said:
Rules call for dogs to be leashed for good reasons on public land, primarily wildlife harassment. How do you control your dog when he's loose ? :confused: I sense your entitlement here . I've got no patience with dogs who chase squirrels, grouse , or deer.


Grizz
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Must be hard to upland bird hunt if you've got to keep your dog leashed...

All this talk of freely roaming dogs is pretty irrelevant to the story. The owner was close by, and they were in an area that is well known to be popular with dog walkers. The dog wasn't on someone's private property, and it wasn't harassing any wildlife. The dog wasn't doing anything that could have warranted shooting it unless you believe in shooting any off leash dog on sight.

Dog owners absolutely need to take responsibility for their pets. However I don't see anything that suggests the owner was doing anything wrong unless you think the simple fact the dog was off leash is a big issue, at which point we'll just have to agree to disagree.
 
pete dobinson said:
You really jump to conclusions don't you. You know nothing about me or my dog. For your information, my dog will walk right past a deer she is so docile. What's this about chasing squirrels are you some kind of nut. lol
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Don’t waste your time on shmucks like that bro..all this started about some arse hole shooting a therapy dog illegally yet they chirp on about their ranch and chickens and cattle. Blah blah blah.and how manly they shoot dogs on their property.All bravado crap shooting those pesky dogs with his 3030 until some neighbour does the same to them...they ll wine like little #####es bet on it...wow and they call me a snowflake...maybe time to buy your old ladies a peloton bike so the y can fit into a regular car...lol
 
pete dobinson said:
You really jump to conclusions don't you. You know nothing about me or my dog. For your information, my dog will walk right past a deer she is so docile. What's this about chasing squirrels are you some kind of nut. lol
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Rules are made for the less enlightened, of course nobody admits to being one, that's why we have them.

Grizz
 
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fattz said:
Don’t waste your time on shmucks like that bro..all this started about some arse hole shooting a therapy dog illegally yet they chirp on about their ranch and chickens and cattle. Blah blah blah.and how manly they shoot dogs on their property.All bravado crap shooting those pesky dogs with his 3030 until some neighbour does the same to them...they ll wine like little #####es bet on it...wow and they call me a snowflake...maybe time to buy your old ladies a peloton bike so the y can fit into a regular car...lol
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Peloton bike.
 
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The dog was not a certified therapy dog - not that it matters. He was in a legal hunting area but there was no legal wolf hunt in that zone. The neighbouring zone has a wolf opening. Perhaps he didnt know the zone boundaries? It was legal to shoot coyotes in that area. The owner was in the vicinity but not in the view of the hunter.
That being said he is 100% at fault and, I think, punished accordingly.
 
trucker60 said:
The dog was not a certified therapy dog - not that it matters. He was in a legal hunting area but there was no legal wolf hunt in that zone. The neighbouring zone has a wolf opening. Perhaps he didnt know the zone boundaries? It was legal to shoot coyotes in that area. The owner was in the vicinity but not in the view of the hunter.
That being said he is 100% at fault and, I think, punished accordingly.
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If I'm not mistaken, the Zone boundary there is the highway.
 
Suther said:
If I'm not mistaken, the Zone boundary there is the highway.
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It's hard to distinguish on the maps. It appears to follow the river more so than the highway. In the vicinity of this infraction the zone boundary does switch from the east side of the highway to the west side of the highway. I think for any species but wolf the zones have the same regs.
 
trucker60 said:
It's hard to distinguish on the maps. It appears to follow the river more so than the highway. In the vicinity of this infraction the zone boundary does switch from the east side of the highway to the west side of the highway. I think for any species but wolf the zones have the same regs.
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I looked at the boundaries a couple years ago and came to the same conclusion. I presume the shooter was not competently represented legally as I can't imagine any decent lawyer not being able to successfully introduce reasonable doubt of the few hundred feet of boundaries in question while looking at these official published boundaries on a hand held phone. He shot a dog that was bred to look like a wolf.

From an emotional and financial standpoint both parties probably suffered about the same in the end. From the point of responsibility for the dogs death I put 50/50 between the two parties. Both were idiots. Arguing from the side of a multiple German Shepherd dog owner I can't even imagine letting 10 dogs run off leash in a deer hunting zone in season without wearing orange within a few hundred feet of a wolf zone when one of the dogs was bred to look like a wolf.

Reminds me of those drunk stoned fools who run around in the woods in season wearing deer outfits or the idiot on youtube who doused himself with female deer hormones and was damn near killed when confronted with a buck.
 
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if I remember well, at the time someone (Gatehouse?) commented the dog walker was trespassing on leased land against notification
the hunter was allowed on said land
this doesn't change the way the judge was to judge the issue but then again, following this stupid issue, the govt is planning to extend the no-shooting zones in the area
 
I have a friend who has a rescue dog that his family just loves. They want to take the dog everywhere with them but have trouble getting into some facilities. He went on line and bought a service dog vest and paper work that states she is a service dog. Now I'm always a little on the skeptical side when I hear that someone has a therapy or service dog. I have made a lot of people angry over the years when it comes to dogs but the bottom line is when not on your own property the dog better be under your control and in site at all times.
 
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I have a friend who has a rescue dog that his family just loves. They want to take the dog everywhere with them but have trouble getting into some facilities. He went on line and bought a service dog vest and paper work that states she is a service dog. Now I'm always a little on the skeptical side when I hear that someone has a therapy or service dog. I have made a lot of people angry over the years when it comes to dogs but the bottom line is when not on your own property the dog better be under your control and in site at all times.
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Impersonating a certified service dog is illegal. That's pretty sleazy.
 
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