BC Hunter who shot support dog fined and banned

[canadian hunter312]

Don’t waste your time on shmucks like that bro..all this started about some arse hole shooting a therapy dog illegally yet they chirp on about their ranch and chickens and cattle. Blah blah blah.and how manly they shoot dogs on their property.All bravado crap shooting those pesky dogs with his 3030 until some neighbour does the same to them...they ll wine like little #####es bet on it...wow and they call me a snowflake...maybe time to buy your old ladies a peloton bike so the y can fit into a regular car...lol

Well, i don't think anyone enjoys shooting dogs that are harassing or killing livestock and nobody is claiming it makes anyone more manly. There are people here who understand dogs are just another animal and shooting them to protect livestock is the same as killing a raccoon in the coop...they're both pests that need to be exterminated.

It's actually quite comical how you don't even realize how much of a snowflake you really are. Your posts here painting a clear picture...

 

[rkm456]

I have to say, reading through this thread it's been really entertaining to watch some people do mental gymnastics as to why they should be shooting people's dogs.

 

[merlin1]

I have to say, reading through this thread it's been really entertaining to watch some people do mental gymnastics as to why they should be shooting people's dogs.

Yet the same people calling others snowflakes show me how slow in the head they really are.cheers

 

[Jaylegger]

I have to say, reading through this thread it's been really entertaining to watch some people do mental gymnastics as to why they should be shooting people's dogs.

Under the circumstances I presume the shooter would not not have pulled the trigger if a table sauntered across the road, likely refrained if an elephant crossed the path, or a rhino, a vehicle, a human, a mouse squirrel or a chihuahua, a Maine cat . He pulled the trigger after hearing the chatter of a pack of 10 dogs coming toward him and the first dog to jump out onto the road was a dog bred to look like a wolf. No leash, no orange or bells and under no control of an owner.

I'm sorry but playing the service, comfort, rescue dog bull#### card has gone way too far. Take responsibility for your own lazy ass self entitled actions. That service, comfort, rescue pet BS strategy is the goto for the social media attention seeking BS personalities.

 

[Boogie666]

Remember it's against the law to kill dogs for roaming.

 

[Jaylegger]

Remember it's against the law to kill dogs for roaming.

Remember, if you're concerned, that dog might be yours. Might get you some Facebook sympathy likes....congrats. Laws do not protect you or your property, laws provide an after the fact process of retribution.

 

[drill702]

It was probably "COMING RIGHT FOR HIM!!!"

 

[Anomaly]

I looked at the boundaries a couple years ago and came to the same conclusion. I presume the shooter was not competently represented legally as I can't imagine any decent lawyer not being able to successfully introduce reasonable doubt of the few hundred feet of boundaries in question

It's almost as if you're not supposed to take a shot if you're not %100 sure of your game or location. Imagine that. Also Imagine that you can also use a tool called GPS, and a $5 app like ihunter will tell you what zone you're in and the regs that pertain to that zone. What a time to be alive.

 

[fattz]

Under the circumstances I presume the shooter would not not have pulled the trigger if a table sauntered across the road, likely refrained if an elephant crossed the path, or a rhino, a vehicle, a human, a mouse squirrel or a chihuahua, a Maine cat . He pulled the trigger after hearing the chatter of a pack of 10 dogs coming toward him and the first dog to jump out onto the road was a dog bred to look like a wolf. No leash, no orange or bells and under no control of an owner.

I'm sorry but playing the service, comfort, rescue dog bull#### card has gone way too far. Take responsibility for your own lazy ass self entitled actions. That service, comfort, rescue pet BS strategy is the goto for the social media attention seeking BS personalities.

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[fattz]

Under the circumstances I presume the shooter would not not have pulled the trigger if a table sauntered across the road, likely refrained if an elephant crossed the path, or a rhino, a vehicle, a human, a mouse squirrel or a chihuahua, a Maine cat . He pulled the trigger after hearing the chatter of a pack of 10 dogs coming toward him and the first dog to jump out onto the road was a dog bred to look like a wolf. No leash, no orange or bells and under no control of an owner.

I'm sorry but playing the service, comfort, rescue dog bull#### card has gone way too far. Take responsibility for your own lazy ass self entitled actions. That service, comfort, rescue pet BS strategy is the goto for the social media attention seeking BS personalities.

And to think that the judge didn't meet with you to tell him what really happened that day cause it sounds like you were there.Oh no wait it's just another guy with an opinion thus means absolutely zero on that outcome.Dont you feel better now knowing your jibberish has no impact and means absolutely nothing.I do.You seem very angry in your posts,maybe you should talk to somebody about it,no?

 

[Rolandabgrall]

Where was this? Never seen or read about it on the news

 

[FLHTCUI]

Where was this? Never seen or read about it on the news

It happened between Squamish and Whistler ....
https://globalnews.ca/news/6261364/therapy-dog-shot-hunter-guilty/
surprised you missed the original hooplah.
Rob

 

[Boogie666]

Remember, if you're concerned, that dog might be yours. Might get you some Facebook sympathy likes....congrats. Laws do not protect you or your property, laws provide an after the fact process of retribution.

So you want to kill things for crimes they might commit? Maybe we should lock you up for some thought crimes or take away your guns since you're not responsible.

 

[rkm456]

Under the circumstances I presume the shooter would not not have pulled the trigger if a table sauntered across the road, likely refrained if an elephant crossed the path, or a rhino, a vehicle, a human, a mouse squirrel or a chihuahua, a Maine cat . He pulled the trigger after hearing the chatter of a pack of 10 dogs coming toward him and the first dog to jump out onto the road was a dog bred to look like a wolf. No leash, no orange or bells and under no control of an owner.

I'm sorry but playing the service, comfort, rescue dog bull#### card has gone way too far. Take responsibility for your own lazy ass self entitled actions. That service, comfort, rescue pet BS strategy is the goto for the social media attention seeking BS personalities.

There's a few problems here.

1) "Bred to look like a wolf"? Please take this "military style assault weapon" nonsense elswhere.
2) "Take responsibility for your own lazy ass self entitled actions." You should be applying that expectation to the guy pulling the trigger too.
3) It seems like you might need to review the 4 rules of firearm safety:

1) All guns are always loaded
2) Never let the muzzle cover anything you are not willing to destroy
3) Keep your finger off the trigger till your sights are on the target
4) Identify your target, and what is behind it

The shooter clearly ignored 4 and was playing fast and loose with 2 and 3. He made a mistake, it happens. Unfortunately for him mistakes have consequences.

 

[Jaylegger]

There's a few problems here.

1) "Bred to look like a wolf"? Please take this "military style assault weapon" nonsense elswhere.
2) "Take responsibility for your own lazy ass self entitled actions." You should be applying that expectation to the guy pulling the trigger too.
3) It seems like you might need to review the 4 rules of firearm safety:

1) All guns are always loaded
2) Never let the muzzle cover anything you are not willing to destroy
3) Keep your finger off the trigger till your sights are on the target
4) Identify your target, and what is behind it

The shooter clearly ignored 4 and was playing fast and loose with 2 and 3. He made a mistake, it happens. Unfortunately for him mistakes have consequences.

I feel there's a 50/50 responsibility of the dog death between the owner and shooter. Seems to me the shooter was far too hasty in making his decision to shoot but if the shooter identifies that dog as as wolf and followed 1-4 it would have led to the same result.

Not sure why you believe #4 (what is behind it part) is so important here, the other dogs and owner were down a heavily wooded embankment on the left side of the road when the dog jumped out in front of the shooter. The bullet path had no chance of injuring anything but the road beyond 100ft.

Regarding your point #1, I don't disagree with this at all, but the general public and even those with some experience would have extreme difficulty determining the difference within a few seconds on both sides. A reasonable person should understand this. For the owner of the dog to have a wolf like dog off leash without orange in the woods during deer hunting season and within a few hundred feet of a legal wolf area seems equally if not slightly more negligent.

Regarding the post you responded to, the shooter, right or wrong, (back to your # 4 point) seemingly thought he was shooting a wolf and nothing else. He was an experienced hunter and had no previous violations. First reports were the shooter had chosen to not have legal representation. Seems like every-time I post no one actually spends anytime at all to understand what is being said but just picks and chooses a few, out of context, points to use as a sound-board.

I personally spend much time in an effort to protect me, my family and property from, what I consider, predictably dangerous circumstances . No dog of mine would be caught in that same circumstance. It's like legal CCW of the brain. If my dog(s) were shot under those predictably dangerous to the dog circumstances without undertaking any measures to identify and reduce the risks I sure wouldn't blame the shooter.

This dog owner immediately played the modern socially acceptable and popular "comfort dog" card to deflect from her own personal responsibility of doing everything reasonable to provide adequate care for her pet//

 

[rkm456]

I feel there's a 50/50 responsibility of the dog death between the owner and shooter. Seems to me the shooter was far too hasty in making his decision to shoot but if the shooter identifies that dog as as wolf and followed 1-4 it would have led to the same result.

Not sure why you believe #4 (what is behind it part) is so important here, the other dogs and owner were down a heavily wooded embankment on the left side of the road when the dog jumped out in front of the shooter. The bullet path had no chance of injuring anything but the road beyond 100ft.

Regarding your point #1, I don't disagree with this at all, but the general public and even those with some experience would have extreme difficulty determining the difference within a few seconds on both sides. A reasonable person should understand this. For the owner of the dog to have a wolf like dog off leash without orange in the woods during deer hunting season and within a few hundred feet of a legal wolf area seems equally if not slightly more negligent.

Regarding the post you responded to, the shooter, right or wrong, (back to your # 4 point) seemingly thought he was shooting a wolf and nothing else. He was an experienced hunter and had no previous violations. First reports were the shooter had chosen to not have legal representation. Seems like every-time I post no one actually spends anytime at all to understand what is being said but just picks and chooses a few, out of context, points to use as a sound-board.

I personally spend much time in an effort to protect me, my family and property from, what I consider, predictably dangerous circumstances . No dog of mine would be caught in that same circumstance. It's like legal CCW of the brain. If my dog(s) were shot under those predictably dangerous to the dog circumstances without undertaking any measures to identify and reduce the risks I sure wouldn't blame the shooter.

This dog owner immediately played the modern socially acceptable and popular "comfort dog" card to deflect from her own personal responsibility of doing everything reasonable to provide adequate care for her pet//

The identifying your target part, is the important part. This guy didn't and because of it, has put hunters under an even finer microscope in a province that is already on the fast track to banning hunting altogether. That dog doesn't look like a wolf, it looks like a husky. The added "He heard the in tow pack of dogs" narrative further undermines the honest mistake claim because he clearly didn't see the pack or he'd have said "Oh, those aren't wolves." When we're afield, we represent every hunter. You can blame the dog owners until the cow's come home, but at the end of the day anyone here who's honest with themselves knows that he doesn't pull that trigger and there's no story to tell.

 

[GUB]

Just looked at the pics from the news report..
For those that probably don't know..which seems like quite a few of you..
Wolves come in all shapes, sizes and colors and shades..
looks like a wolf to me..
We had one just like that ..which walked into our camp at Bouzer Lake ..before the gold mine and before the bridge was taken out..

 

[Jaylegger]

The identifying your target part, is the important part. This guy didn't and because of it, has put hunters under an even finer microscope in a province that is already on the fast track to banning hunting altogether. That dog doesn't look like a wolf, it looks like a husky. The added "He heard the in tow pack of dogs" narrative further undermines the honest mistake claim because he clearly didn't see the pack or he'd have said "Oh, those aren't wolves." When we're afield, we represent every hunter. You can blame the dog owners until the cow's come home, but at the end of the day anyone here who's honest with themselves knows that he doesn't pull that trigger and there's no story to tell.

The dog owner is equally at blame here. Unfortunately many dog owners share similar traits to bicycle riders. They feel others should should expend far greater efforts looking out for their or there pets safety than they wish to do to protect themselves. I've said multiple times and it seems many snowflakes will never get it. Laws don't mean much when you or your loved one is dying in a ditch somewhere

 

[fattz]

Just looked at the pics from the news report..
For those that probably don't know..which seems like quite a few of you..
Wolves come in all shapes, sizes and colors and shades..
looks like a wolf to me..
We had one just like that ..which walked into our camp at Bouzer Lake ..before the gold mine and before the bridge was taken out..

Yes I looked at some pictures from a newspaper and it also looked like a 3 legged mule to me..hmm. Not sure if anyone is aware that these mules come in all shapes and sizes, some even look like wolves...ya ok

 

[Jaylegger]

The identifying your target part, is the important part. This guy didn't and because of it, has put hunters under an even finer microscope in a province that is already on the fast track to banning hunting altogether. That dog doesn't look like a wolf, it looks like a husky. The added "He heard the in tow pack of dogs" narrative further undermines the honest mistake claim because he clearly didn't see the pack or he'd have said "Oh, those aren't wolves." When we're afield, we represent every hunter. You can blame the dog owners until the cow's come home, but at the end of the day anyone here who's honest with themselves knows that he doesn't pull that trigger and there's no story to tell.

I've commented on all of your points. but by your highlights it's obvious just want to pick and choose a sentence or two to out of context to bolster you point. Please read the my entire 6 sentence post/