BC Hunter who shot support dog fined and banned

fattz said:
Yes I looked at some pictures from a newspaper and it also looked like a 3 legged mule to me..hmm. Not sure if anyone is aware that these mules come in all shapes and sizes, some even look like wolves...ya ok:jerkit:
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Ontario..figures..To much National Geographic..
Wolves are friendly and missunderstood and have never attacked a human
Right... Easterners always think they know better
 
Jaylegger said:
The dog owner is equally at blame here. Unfortunately many dog owners share similar traits to bicycle riders. They feel others should should expend far greater efforts looking out for their or there pets safety than they wish to do to protect themselves. I've said multiple times and it seems many snowflakes will never get it. Laws don't mean much when you or your loved one is dying in a ditch somewhere
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You're incorrectly conflating blaming the hunter with absolving the dog owner(s) of responsibility. In this case it wasn't the dog owners on trial, it was the hunter and his irresponsible behaviour so that's what I'm addressing.

I've commented on all of your points. but by your highlights it's obvious just want to pick and choose a sentence or two to out of context to bolster you point. Please read the my entire 6 sentence post
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If you keep things succinct and on topic I'm more than happy to address them. If you go on long non sequiturs then don't expect me to bother addressing them.
 
rkm456 said:
You're incorrectly conflating blaming the hunter with absolving the dog owner(s) of responsibility. In this case it wasn't the dog owners on trial, it was the hunter and his irresponsible behaviour so that's what I'm addressing.

If you keep things succinct and on topic I'm more than happy to address them. If you go on long non sequiturs then don't expect me to bother addressing them.
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LOL. getting into a habit of reading/researching more than you type would be my suggestion to you.

I agree that on these forums I should not have gone there but after decades of experience this came to mind as the only conflation that is absolutely justified and would be supported by rigorous statistical data
 
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GUB said:
Ontario..figures..To much National Geographic..
Wolves are friendly and missunderstood and have never attacked a human
Right... Easterners always think they know better
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Hunted my whole life Timmy and lived in Ontario only last few years.As for National Geographic at least mine didn't have pages stuck together...Guess you liked those tribe women ehh Timmy?
 
rkm456 said:
Let's just get right down to it, simple yes or no question. Did the hunter in question misidentify the dog?
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It's not that simple, why did he misidentify the dog and who suffered the greatest loss from this mis identification are factors that need to be investigated.

Could you identify the differences between dozens of wolf breeds in 5 seconds??

I'm assuming the report that he heard multiple dogs barking (which turned out to be 9 other dogs barking) are correct and he felt there was a possible imminent threat to his life from a pack of wolves

Remember that the dog owner did absolutely nothing to either identify risks or do anything to mitigate the risks of her dog being killed due to her own ignorance and negligence. And she was also a self proposed expert.

It's clear to me this inadequately represented shooter was taken advantage of by the same system that sniped and targeted the inadequately represented soul whose Tribunal case ultimately banned certain knives from entry into Canada despite those knives being legal in Canada.

Congrats ya'll/
 
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Jaylegger said:
Could you identify the differences between dozens of wolf breeds in 5 seconds??
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No, but I could more than likely tell the difference between a wolf and a dog. Where'd you get this "5 seconds" from?

I'm assuming the report that he heard multiple dogs barking are correct and he felt there was an imminent threat to his life/
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How would one ascertain that when he hadn't seen the pack of dogs?
 
Jaylegger said:
It's not that simple, why did he misidentify the dog and who suffered the greatest loss from this mis identification are factors that need to be investigated.

Could you identify the differences between dozens of wolf breeds in 5 seconds??

I'm assuming the report that he heard multiple dogs barking (which turned out to be 9 other dogs barking) are correct and he felt there was a possible imminent threat to his life from a pack of wolves

Remember that the dog owner did absolutely nothing to either identify risks or do anything to mitigate the risks of her dog being killed due to her own ignorance and negligence. And she was also a self proposed expert.

It's clear to me this inadequately represented shooter was taken advantage of by the same system that sniped and targeted the inadequately represented soul whose Tribunal case ultimately banned certain knives from entry into Canada despite those knives being legal in Canada.

Congrats ya'll/
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???
 
fattz said:
Hunted my whole life Timmy and lived in Ontario only last few years.As for National Geographic at least mine didn't have pages stuck together...Guess you liked those tribe women ehh Timmy?
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That's it??? Nothing to add about your wolf encounters in the bush??
You had 2 comments to add something worth while?
But being lippy is easier??
 
rkm456 said:
No, but I could more than likely tell the difference between a wolf and a dog. Where'd you get this "5 seconds" from?

Out in the bush is not the Westminister Dog Show.. running at you head on through the bush and you can tell the difference between mutt that got shot and a B.C. wolf??
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GUB said:
rkm456 said:
No, but I could more than likely tell the difference between a wolf and a dog. Where'd you get this "5 seconds" from?

Out in the bush is not the Westminister Dog Show.. running at you head on through the bush and you can tell the difference between mutt that got shot and a B.C. wolf??
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I like how with every defense of the shooting the shooters situation becomes more and more harrowing.
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Jaylegger said:
Experience, 5 second decision making process prior to the shyte hits the fan was giving you a few seconds actually.
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Okay, so did the wolf-dog appear from out of nowhere and take him by surprise or was it approaching with its large pack? You really need to pick a defense and stick with it. If the story keeps changing it makes it seem increasingly unlikely that none of them are the truth. In hindsight, I have a sneaking suspicion I can figure out how this gentleman ended up being found guilty.

Were you born and raised in Newmarket?
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No, but heading in the direction of thinly veiled insults is always the sign of a well constructed argument. Bravo.
 
I've been around wolves and I have never felt threatened, you guys shouldn't be hunting if you feel that threatened especially in an area that's known to have mountain bikers and dog walkers, what the hell's wrong with you people. Making a decision in 5 seconds sound trigger happy to me. The guy was found guilty and sentenced, move on. There's a few people on here that need to take the C.O.R.E. program again.
 
rkm456 said:
Okay, so did the wolf-dog appear from out of nowhere and take him by surprise or was it approaching with its large pack? You really need to pick a defense and stick with it. If the story keeps changing it makes it seem increasingly unlikely that none of them are the truth. In hindsight, I have a sneaking suspicion I can figure out how this gentleman ended up being found guilty.



No, but heading in the direction of thinly veiled insults is always the sign of a well constructed argument. Bravo.
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I've laid out on this site my interpretation of what happened. I posted only after feeling confident I had some idea of the circumstances after reading a slew of reports on the incident over the last couple years and having an understanding of the area involved and the exact location of the shooting. I'm fairly confident my stance is relativity informed.
Please interact on any of my points that I perceive as a fact and I'd have no issues going forward from there. Your last few posts are gibberish.

Seems like everyone here condones dog walking business setting a pack of dogs free in the woods during hunting season.
 
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Jaylegger said:
I've laid out on this site my interpretation of what happened. I posted only after feeling confident I had some idea of the circumstances after reading a slew of reports on the incident over the last couple years and having an understanding of the area involved and the exact location of the shooting. I'm fairly confident my stance is relativity informed.
Please interact on any of my points that I perceive as a fact and I'd have no issues going forward from there. Your last few posts are gibberish.

Seems like everyone here condones dog walking business setting a pack of dogs free in the woods during hunting season.
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The main problem with your interpretation is that you continually circle back to this idea that the dog owners should share equal blame. It's right up there with "Well, she wouldn't have been raped if she wasn't wearing those clothes."
 
Don't waste your breath on these old grumpy fossils calling people snowflakes and defending the hunter. They can't help it, their lives are just miserable :)

Dogs get out of fenced properties all the time, mistakes happen. A normal good neighbour will call you up or return your dog, not shoot it. If it's an on going problem then things are different and the dog owner is at fault but to shoot the dog the first time it comes on your property is absurd. You can view your own dogs as "just animals" but you don't have the right to view someone else's dog as just an animal because to them and their children it's not. Killing a dog is way more then just killing an animal. You're killing someone's pet, a family member.
If you have no shame or compassion for killing someone's pet then I feel sorry for you. Maybe some counselling will help with your childhood traumatic stress disorder caused by bad parenting.
 
Mayday_ said:
Don't waste your breath on these old grumpy fossils calling people snowflakes and defending the hunter. They can't help it, their lives are just miserable :)

Dogs get out of fenced properties all the time, mistakes happen. A normal good neighbour will call you up or return your dog, not shoot it. If it's an on going problem then things are different and the dog owner is at fault but to shoot the dog the first time it comes on your property is absurd. You can view your own dogs as "just animals" but you don't have the right to view someone else's dog as just an animal because to them and their children it's not. Killing a dog is way more then just killing an animal. You're killing someone's pet, a family member.
If you have no shame or compassion for killing someone's pet then I feel sorry for you. Maybe some counselling will help with your childhood traumatic stress disorder caused by bad parenting.
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Some here have had some sort of cranial trauma during their childhood and just don't get it,or they live in the hills where they call their relatives uncle dad..Cheers. Lol
 
Mayday_ said:
Don't waste your breath on these old grumpy fossils calling people snowflakes and defending the hunter. They can't help it, their lives are just miserable :)

Dogs get out of fenced properties all the time, mistakes happen. A normal good neighbour will call you up or return your dog, not shoot it. If it's an on going problem then things are different and the dog owner is at fault but to shoot the dog the first time it comes on your property is absurd. You can view your own dogs as "just animals" but you don't have the right to view someone else's dog as just an animal because to them and their children it's not. Killing a dog is way more then just killing an animal. You're killing someone's pet, a family member.
If you have no shame or compassion for killing someone's pet then I feel sorry for you. Maybe some counselling will help with your childhood traumatic stress disorder caused by bad parenting.
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Narrow point of view and very limited life experience in your post...there are livestock protection laws that give a person the right to absolutely kill a "normal good neighbours" "PET" for good reason!!

Dog owners need to understand that their lovely, caring, loyal, family member pet, can be "just an animal" to someone else.

All parties involved need to take some responsibility for the outcome of this event....just my opinion though....:)
 
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