BCL 102 catastrophic failure
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I have to say, that is one ignorant post. The BCL-102 is first of the new non restricted AR lookalikes and it was the one that started it all.
I think the modern hunter came along before the bcl 102.
personally I try and avoid all companies that use their customers as their R&D team in their rush to get a product into the market place and $$$ rolling in to their greasy fingers.
make it right the first time or don't sell it at all.
I have been enjoying my nr ar rifle for years now is the troy a sweet looking rig hell yes but i have shot and killed with my rifle for a few years there are alot of people who where happy to play in the game long before you.
Just remember your safety glasses, gloves and hearing protection, and if you reload, don't skip anything - especially your crimp die! Rounds hanging on the ramp CAN shorten your OAL, cause pressure spikes and blow up your gun/face/hands. Fulton used to have a long article on an M14 KB that was traced to failing to crimp.
Not sure how that is ignorant at all.
Troy simply bought the name and produces a rifle without major QC and customer service issues like the BCL. Couldn't give two craps who "came first".
What I want and got is a sub $2k non restricted AR pattern rifle that is quality built, backed by regular customer service. Got it all.
care to post links to these claims?
I did a lot of research on US forums before getting into the stag-10 rifles and other than a very small number of fan boys of other brands who like to pretend they are operators, by and large Stag Arms is considered "Good To Go" by the vast majority of americans who have unfettered access to a plethora of other choices.
just google " Stag Arms any good?" if you doubt my claims. The ar15 forum thread has that exact title.
I'm in the ar15 builders forum on Facebook and the only reason people don't buy more stags is because of the price and they are cheap people who would rather have 5 low end builds instead of 1 or 2 high end builds. They would rather build Anderson and bca and say its "jUsT aS gOoD" as a noveske, dd or bcm. There are purists that swear by higher end stuff like stags. I've never seen a complaint about a stag with over 78000 members in the group. The only thing was the cheap knock off patent infringing raptor charging handles they tried peddling until they got told to stop by radians lawyers
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The troy 102 has a black nitride bcg with dual extractors.
Did the bcl 102?
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Did the bcl 102?
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Every company/manufacturer does this. How many vehicles are sold to the public only to find out there are defects. How many deaths have been caused because of it? BCL's mistakes are a pittance compared to that. BCL made some mistakes when they first came came out, but at least they are trying to improve the product and that's all any company can do. Now don't get me wrong here, I'm not defending them or any other company, but sadly that's just the way things are done, and guess who has to pay the price. This is just my opinion.
I'm not a big hater like some folks are but I've had my eyes open for the past few years and I think my comments are accurate in describing the evolution of NEA and BCL.
a rifle is a far simpler machine than an automobile so the comparison is not really fair. Using quality tooling, quality materials, changing tooling when required to maintain tolerances run to run, attention to detail in post milling cleanup and deburring and lastly a more professional approach to quality finishes/coatings that are stable run to run. And putting thousands of rounds down range with at least one rifle from each machining run..... and proof firing/pre shipping inspection..... just to get started
it's easy to sit at my keyboard and pass judgement so I won't say anything more hehehe
I understand what you're saying but my analogy between the automobile and the rifle was to point out that every manufacturer uses the public as Guinea pigs. If they didn't then they would never know what their product was like in the real world. You can test, test, test and test again but you'll never know what mistakes you made until a bunch of people use or operate the product. As I mentioned, I'm not sticking up for BCL or any other manufacturer for that matter, it seems to me they are trying to get better and that's all any company can do, but the sad reality is there's always casualties along the way.
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jonnyboy1014
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Sounds like you should be running BCL
