Started trying to semi zero my BCL 102 at 100 yards today, using 7.62 S - Patonen / StG 58 rounds. After about 7 rounds, nearly every second round and a few simultaneous rounds FTE. They pretty much chimneyed in the extraction and a few sandwhiched themselves in. Could this be a round issue? Gas adjustment maybe? Extractor issue?
Bcl 102 FTE
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1) Thoroughly clean it up
2) Lube it
3) Use standard commercial ammo 150gr-180gr (ideally 150gr FMJ military type loads)
4) Shoulder and hold rifle solidly
I had problems with my rifle but after cleaning it and lube it, it shoots everything reliably almost anything commercial
(Hornady 110gr TAP-FDP, PMC 155gr FMJ, Hornady 155gr Steel Match, many
168-175gr match ammo, and inexpensive Remington 150 and 180 Core-Lokt)
Only then, should you only consider other avenues.
2) Lube it
3) Use standard commercial ammo 150gr-180gr (ideally 150gr FMJ military type loads)
4) Shoulder and hold rifle solidly
I had problems with my rifle but after cleaning it and lube it, it shoots everything reliably almost anything commercial
(Hornady 110gr TAP-FDP, PMC 155gr FMJ, Hornady 155gr Steel Match, many
168-175gr match ammo, and inexpensive Remington 150 and 180 Core-Lokt)
Only then, should you only consider other avenues.
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I threw a DPMS bolt repair kit in mine. Seemed to smarten it up. Definitely higher quality parts than stock. Firing pin fit a little snug though so I let it for a spare. I also scotch brited the gas piston bore to smooth it up a bit.
Does the bolt lock back on Mag with only a single round in it?
Mine did same, wouldn't Cycle three shots without a stovepipe or jam up.
If it's locks back every time on empty mag I'd suggest controlling the gas. Mine was cycling much to fast for ejector to do it's job. Adjustable gas block and worked reliably since.
Mine did same, wouldn't Cycle three shots without a stovepipe or jam up.
If it's locks back every time on empty mag I'd suggest controlling the gas. Mine was cycling much to fast for ejector to do it's job. Adjustable gas block and worked reliably since.
Same here, replaced the extractor too. Night and day better.
meatball74
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Hit up BCL too. They sent out a small assortment of part (gas rings, extractor, extractor spring and extractor pin). so far, no stove piping on Federal XM80 149gr. where there once was. Extractor is ever so slightly different, gas rings are definitely a tighter fit. Best of all, no cost to me other than initial frustration. Give them a chance to make it right, seems they are more than willing to work with us.
I took my BCL 102 to our local gunsmith, Murray Charlton, to get a new muzzle brake installed. Precision Armament, M4-72 from RDSC.
I had a good visit with both Murry and his younger apprentice, Tim, when I picked up the rifle. This was the first BCL 102 they had seen so both spent quality time giving it a good look over.
I also had them to a safety check as I had over 500 rounds through the rifle. And I had them remove the handguard as mine was a bear for me, and for them to remove.
Both are impressed with the fit and finish of this rifle. Their comment was that rifle was almost too well made as the tolerances were some of the highest they had ever seen.
The BCL machining was almost perfect and then they use standard AR parts so there is a bit of a mismatch there.
This makes sense as I really needed to keep the BCL very wet with syntactic oil during the break-in. Now that the rifle as worn in a bit, It now seems to be very reliable.
The Burnt Bronze handguard was a major PITA to remove and tight as hell. Again the specs are so tight and with the addition of the cerakoting, I needed those two to remove it.
Tim polished up in the inside and contact areas so while is still is on rather tight, it the handguard can be removed for cleaning.
Overall I am still very pleased with mine. I might do a BCL upgrade if issues arise. I also did the paracord trigger job and as such, I have no issue with the trigger.
To also help put my comments in perspective. I also own a Tavor 21 with a Geissele Automatics Lightning Bow (ArmsEast) and a Robinson Arms XCR-L
The IWI Tavor is everything one would expect, simply flawless. The stock trigger will damage your trigger finger but the Lightning Bow will bring a smile to your face.
The XCR-L is a great tactical rifle. Mine is an older quad rail rifle with a heavy barrel. I have also handled a couple of XCR-L with M-Lok and the light barrel and these feel pounds lighter.
I had a good visit with both Murry and his younger apprentice, Tim, when I picked up the rifle. This was the first BCL 102 they had seen so both spent quality time giving it a good look over.
I also had them to a safety check as I had over 500 rounds through the rifle. And I had them remove the handguard as mine was a bear for me, and for them to remove.
Both are impressed with the fit and finish of this rifle. Their comment was that rifle was almost too well made as the tolerances were some of the highest they had ever seen.
The BCL machining was almost perfect and then they use standard AR parts so there is a bit of a mismatch there.
This makes sense as I really needed to keep the BCL very wet with syntactic oil during the break-in. Now that the rifle as worn in a bit, It now seems to be very reliable.
The Burnt Bronze handguard was a major PITA to remove and tight as hell. Again the specs are so tight and with the addition of the cerakoting, I needed those two to remove it.
Tim polished up in the inside and contact areas so while is still is on rather tight, it the handguard can be removed for cleaning.
Overall I am still very pleased with mine. I might do a BCL upgrade if issues arise. I also did the paracord trigger job and as such, I have no issue with the trigger.
To also help put my comments in perspective. I also own a Tavor 21 with a Geissele Automatics Lightning Bow (ArmsEast) and a Robinson Arms XCR-L
The IWI Tavor is everything one would expect, simply flawless. The stock trigger will damage your trigger finger but the Lightning Bow will bring a smile to your face.
The XCR-L is a great tactical rifle. Mine is an older quad rail rifle with a heavy barrel. I have also handled a couple of XCR-L with M-Lok and the light barrel and these feel pounds lighter.
*update*
After speaking to Saskatoon Gun Works, they suggested an Extractor issue. I contacted BCL and they sent me a new one. It is noticeably different but fit perfect. This time I fired 15 rounds of the 7.62x51 Stg 58 (147g) surplus rounds again. 10 rounds in before 1 FTE. Next up was Remington Core-Lokt (180g). Again 15 rounds fired if these but in rapid succession, with a 0 FTE. Would I be safe to assume the issue may be considered resolved? I get nothing is 100%.
After speaking to Saskatoon Gun Works, they suggested an Extractor issue. I contacted BCL and they sent me a new one. It is noticeably different but fit perfect. This time I fired 15 rounds of the 7.62x51 Stg 58 (147g) surplus rounds again. 10 rounds in before 1 FTE. Next up was Remington Core-Lokt (180g). Again 15 rounds fired if these but in rapid succession, with a 0 FTE. Would I be safe to assume the issue may be considered resolved? I get nothing is 100%.
Sorry not to hijack the thread but on mine after shooting a round it ejects but the bolt doesn’t go all the way forward. There is an 1/2” to inch from closed. Is that undergassed? I have an adjustable gas block so maybe just needs more gas?
