BCL 102 in 45 Raptor

Martim said:
Any chance the BCL 102 come out in .45 Raptor. anytime soon that's a smoking cartridge it's a 460 Smith & Wesson Magnum with a rebated rim to 308 win. there's a big bore smoking ass cartridge out of an 18in Barrel instead of 8in can you say elephant gun!!
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Pretty sure this is going to be the dumbest thing I read all day....and i just got up !!....dude, cool your flow, if your head isn't in the clouds....you would know 1. bcl's are really only in 308 right now....they will come with all the common calibers first until...and even then.....i think you're the only guy that will buy it in something useless you can't find ammo for...but thanks for the chuckle !
 
JaredP said:
.45 Raptor is an ITAR controlled calibre, and components, reamers, and barrels are prohibited from export from the USA.

I agree it would be very cool. You can use commonly available 460 S&W dies. You can make brass by just cutting off 30-06. Very cheap and easy to reload.

Then you have 65,000 PSI behind a 240gr .45 slug at 2650 FPS, with close to 300 win mag muzzle energy, out of a semi auto.
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holy fk!

wow... that would be insane in a semi auto.
 
Jesus, the negativity in this thread is amazing!

Something in .45 Raptor would be the cat's azz for bush hunting. Maybe they'll get around to releasing a .358win option.
 
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Prairie Plinker said:
Jesus, the negativity in this thread is amazing!

Something in .45 Raptor would be the cat's azz for bush hunting. Maybe they'll get around to releasing a .358win option.
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Just some light hearted razzing friend. CGN is not a "safe space"
When I heard that the .450 Bushmaster existed I bought one in less than 1 hour. People will always have an appetite for calibers off the beaten path, and in this case, WAY off the beaten path.
 
Hotwheels81 said:
Sorry to dig up an old thread...

Gentlemen... I've poked the bear so to speak... I spoke with a friend about the 375 raptor cartridge and he fell in love with it..
There is a 375 raptor reamer in the hands of an Alberta gunsmith... The only issue being had at the moment is dies are needing to be custom built for the 375... I fired what I believe is among the first rifles (a bolt action) in Canada chambered in 375 Raptor this afternoon.

And a site sponsor I just noticed has 45 Raptor starline brass "special order" listed on his site...

These cartridges are attainable in Canada ITAR be damned...
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Please keep us posted on the progress. I have a second Stag 10 upper on the way with the intention of building a 375 raptor.
 
I was looking at the 45 VRAP, essentially the AR 15 version. You can get a custom barrel made for it, there are a number of custom barrel makers but I didn't jump on it yet. I don't know why people are saying this is ridiculous, you can form a lot of this brass from existing brass 45 VRAP from 308 brass. Challenge is getting things set up right, its certainly much more work. I'd love an AR 10 in 300 wsm, however there isn't the greatest track record for reliability of feeding and cycling plus you need to have a custom gas tube made for magnum cartridges.
 
CraigNConnor said:
No one would buy it

1 you can't find Ammo
2 you can't find Ammo
3 even if you could find Ammo it would be 3$ or more per round = 60$ / box of 20

Keep dreaming
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So about the cost of 45-70? With similar ballistics. For a second upper, could be a fun project. Look at 450 bushmaster. Couple years ago it’s wasn’t exactly popular, but now since the ruger American ranch came out in that calibre it’s actually not that hard to find.
But it seems like something you would be better off doing on your own. Now the 300win and 338 versions they teased about, those would sell.
 
So to revise an old thread. Has anyone built a .450 raptor in canada yet. Their are lots of good platforms to start from. SLR, ATRS, STAG 10, I'm a huge .460 S&W fan. have a couple revolvers and just ordered a ruger #1 in .460 have the dies and reloading gear already and brass seems to an easy enough. As for all the guys that say its not worth it its boring to have the same .308 as everyone else and fun to have something different.
 
I'm pretty sure the Dp12 is far more practical since I can buy ammo for it at Walmart and no one but a handful of folks knows what 45 raptor is.
 
45 raptor is a gimped cartridge designed specifically to adhere to some US State's weird hunting laws where the max case length of a hunting cartridge can be 1.8".

the 45-70 auto rim AR10s use 2.2" modified 45-70 brass. It's a much better option that uses available components (45-70 dies, 45-70 brass with the rim turned off), and doesn't require a magazine spacer to accommodate the arbitrarily short 45 raptor.

i really have no idea why you would be interested in this calibre outside of the states that can benefit from it's use in a hunting application.
 
JaredP said:
45 raptor is a gimped cartridge designed specifically to adhere to some US State's weird hunting laws where the max case length of a hunting cartridge can be 1.8".

the 45-70 auto rim AR10s use 2.2" modified 45-70 brass. It's a much better option that uses available components (45-70 dies, 45-70 brass with the rim turned off), and doesn't require a magazine spacer to accommodate the arbitrarily short 45 raptor.

i really have no idea why you would be interested in this calibre outside of the states that can benefit from it's use in a hunting application.
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I agree, if you really want something like the 45 raptor just go with a .450 bushmaster. It’s so similar and the benefits outweigh the cons IMO. Brass, barrels, reloading equipment, explaining to everyone what a 45 raptor is, I can’t say it be worth it. That being said, I love weird cartridges as much as the next guy.
 
Raptor would be neat bit why not 450 marlin? Easy to find ammo and dont have to deal with those way to light 452 diameter pistol bullets
 
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