BCL 102 Review!!
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That is very well said, and I also concur with J_K_S that is good advice!
50BMG and 338 Lapua come to mind.
I agree with JIFF, I find my LR rifles often shoot better at 200 and 300 yards than they do at 100, due to the bullets not yet becoming stable ... for me 100 yards is definitely NOT the staple yardage for accuracy ... especially for a .308. I want to know what it is capable of between 300 and out to 600 yards.
I can rattle a marble of someones head with a slingshot at 100 yards
Due to the whole ar-10 and ar-15 lineage issue I see no reason that an UP scaled version of the BCL102 would be a no go. (Someone correct me if I'm wrong please). They already mentioned the possibility of a 9mm varient of the 102 so they must be confident about producing other models based on the 102's design. Only thing stopping it would be economics due to economy of scale. Mass production for the 308 vs the odd random sale for guys like you. But who knows, dreams have became reality before
I have heard several people say this, but if the bullets are apart on different trajectories at 100yds, how in the heck to they stabilize and magically find their way back to an identical path to be accurate at farther ranges?
Just to give you an idea. There's lots of info out there about this. Although not evident in every situation I have seen this to be true first hand. I have a couple rifle/ammo combinations that don't impress at 100 yards but really start to shine after 200.
http://rugerforum.net/#/topics/67814
I would love to see some 102 reviews done at 200 and 300 yards using a higher magnification optic 25x or greater. You might actually be surprised.
Driller212 is correct. This whole stabilize later and shoot better farther stuff is an old wives tale/internet forum nonsense.
A bullet leaves the barrel at its fastest and highest spin rate directly after it leaves the muzzle and it only goes down hill from there. When does something that is unstable become more stable later on as its spin rate decreases?
The "go to sleep" thing is related to longer projectiles (VLD type bullets) so those theorizing that the PPU needed time to sleep and the FGMM didn't have it backwards then. The FGMM 168GR is a longer projectile than the PPU 150gr and would need more time to stabilize than vice versa. Also, the BCL102 has a more than adequate enough twist rate to stabilize either or those bullets.
I fully believe that Jiffx could have better groups at 200 than 100 but it is not due to bullets magically stabilizing past 100 yards. Parallax issues at 100M get people all the time just as an example, sometimes people also get in their heads.
Also, even crap ammo can throw out a good group on occasion.
I have no doubt that with a good trigger puller and some good optics this thing can preform well for a SA. Jerry is doing a lot of testing to find this out.
A bullet leaves the barrel at its fastest and highest spin rate directly after it leaves the muzzle and it only goes down hill from there. When does something that is unstable become more stable later on as its spin rate decreases?
The "go to sleep" thing is related to longer projectiles (VLD type bullets) so those theorizing that the PPU needed time to sleep and the FGMM didn't have it backwards then. The FGMM 168GR is a longer projectile than the PPU 150gr and would need more time to stabilize than vice versa. Also, the BCL102 has a more than adequate enough twist rate to stabilize either or those bullets.
I fully believe that Jiffx could have better groups at 200 than 100 but it is not due to bullets magically stabilizing past 100 yards. Parallax issues at 100M get people all the time just as an example, sometimes people also get in their heads.
Also, even crap ammo can throw out a good group on occasion.
I have no doubt that with a good trigger puller and some good optics this thing can preform well for a SA. Jerry is doing a lot of testing to find this out.
You are correct that it may be more of a factor with longer projectiles. The most noticeable for me is a .243 using 105gr berger vld's. I can take that same rifle and switch to my 70gr NBT loads for coyotes and not experience this. The accuracy results at 100 with the 70gr keep translating respectively down range. Cheap bulk or surplus ammo will not experience this either. A spinning object will naturally try to center it's self and the longer it is the better it's ability to do so.
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Sakoman .308
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Thank you for the review. It's a nice rifle.
