BCL102 issues
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Throttle_monkey1
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Me too. Submitted a warranty claim almost a week ago and haven’t heard anything yet. I don’t even want to fire mine in the condition it’s in. If I could get a 19” lightweight barrel tomorrow I’d forego the whole warranty process.
As a STOCK gun, something was amiss... the 'driver' has nothing do to with it. It wouldn't cycle correctly with a hand fed round in the chamber, no mag. How many variables are in that one eh?
This one?
https://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php/1685471-BCL-102-Wave-2-Rifle-(Black)
I’m confused. Sounds to me like the story in this thread isn’t adding up to the one in your for sale ad.
Was the rifle not functioning properly before or after it lost its ‘special’ feeling for you?
When using Aguila is the bolt locking back? Is it just the handloads that is causing the bolt hold open failure?
What magazines are you using? Is it doing it with all mags?
Have you inspected the hold open? Are the magazines engaging the hold open.
It sounds to me like it is short stoking, and while I’ve never used CFE223 never mind in .308, it looks like there are way better choices of powder. I’d look for one that optimizes the powder volume (uses less weight per charge) and has the greatest spread from min. To max. Charge.
It is also possible your bolt is cycling too fast with the higher charge volumes and the bolt is moving forward past the bolt hold open prior to the magazine spring having time to impart the necessary pressure on the hold open to catch the bolt.
There could be a number of fixes required (better mag springs, combined with unbinding of a sticky hold open, improving the travel of the hold open), but I’m betting the best route is to choose a better powder with a slower burn rate for your ammo
No ####.
The issue is I have a lot of CFE 223 that I bought for this purpose...
Also, it is advertised for use in .308 and many rant and rave about how great of a powder it is for the cartridge. Lastly, my friend has a BCL102 and his functions perfectly with the same loads. To me, this is a gun issue. Not a powder issue.
It's the same one. The rifle lost its specialness to me before shooting it... I brought it over at the range to scope it, and to confirm what I thought of it.
Now it will be in BCL's hands to fix the receiver thing. If I have the receiver on the 24th of March, for the range day for King0265's friend, I'll shoot it again before putting it up on sale to confirm what was/is wrong with it. I won't sell a lemon without telling any issues with it. If, after BCL fixes the receiver, the thing still won't properly cycle, I'm putting it on sale with a description and a deeply reduced price. I intend to strip it down, check individual components, clean/etc it, and put it back together to see if that fixes the issue. My bud said to lube it up, wipe excess and try.
I added the note about the cycling thing in my ad; cheers for the heads up. I assumed that people read other BCL threads and saw reported issues. I guess I assumed incorrectly.
and I just realized I have a bunch of 10rd 308 pistol mags that are useless to me now.. lol
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Yes, CFE223 might be ok for .308, but It might not be best for an auto.
If you had a bolt action rifle in .308 I’d recommend maybe keeping it for that.
If you friend has a 102 and it is functioning fine in comparison, why not compare the two rifles? What’s different on his or what he is doing that you are not?
And what about the rest of the questions I had?
The reviews I read on it recommended it for AR-10's. There probably is a better powder out there, but my friends gun runs fine on this stuff, so I really do not think I have a powder issue.
The Aguila does lock back on the last round, just like CFE does at 48 grains in my gun. I haven't tried any other ammo as of yet. The issue happens regardless of what magazine I use.
The two guns are identical. Nothing aftermarket to speak of. I suppose I could check and see if his colt catch engages anymore than mine does.
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- Red Deer, Alberta
I'd also suggest you try some other factory ammo. 2 or 3 other types. Use stuff that is known to work, Federal American Eagle, Hornaday, Federal 168 GMM.
Does his rifle act like your’s with the ammo that you’re having issues with - does his not lock back on that ammo?
Some things I’d compare between the two guns:
Mags, bolt hold open, level & Type of lube when firing, chambers (cleanliness, polished)
It could be any one thing or a couple/bunch of things combined.
Based on the fact it works at a lower powder weight and doesn’t when you increase the powder charge, I’m leaning toward bolt speed and timing having an effect whereby the mag spring doesn’t have time/pressure necessary to engage the hold open to catch the bolt.
r34skyline
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So why do you keep buying them?
