BD38 Reclassified! Now Prohibited!

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Anyone else too pissed off to sleep tonight?!?!
 
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These things have been available for YEARS.

LOVE the way our Guardians work: let a whole bunch of people spend a ton of money each....... and then screw them ALL.

And they wonder why so many Canadians don't trust them any longer.........

I can think of a few reasons offhand.
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People should get legal help in this matter.

The guns were obtained legally in the normal course of business.

They were THEN prohibited.

Magna Charta provides that the King "will not go against" any Free Man, nor "diminish him". It has been the LAW for 797 years; even the RCMP should have read it by now.

If the Gummint wants these things, let them BUY them....... at FULL RETAIL, PLUS TAX....... which is the only honest and moral way to do it.

After that, if they want the things destroyed, destroy them.... but no hanging onto a few dozen for the Boys in Blue to play with.

Three principles here:

1. Pay for what you get, get what you pay for.

2. You can't have your cake and eat it, too.

3. We are all EQUAL under the Law: this is Canada, not Animal Farm.
 
The reclassifications were due to the joke of a system that the firearms center was using to register newly made firearms. An importer would bring in something new, and he would dictate to the firearms center the characteristics, markings, and classification of the gun over the phone without the firearms center ever seeing the gun in question. They are now just playing catch up with that flaw in their system. Of course, having a repeatedly banned member of this board pointing out to the lab the anomalies of these guns compared to his guns did not help matters any.
 
RMXC51 said:
My previous post was moderated. Police should read ....
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Careful, this crap isn't worth getting kicked off the board over.


Re the likely seizure of these guns: Without the compensation, the guys would be just as well off de-activating the BD38s. I doubt you could get much for the 3008 as a dewat, but the BD38s are worth almost as much dead or alive.
 
I used to have all the respect in the world for the RCMP but after watching them self ignite on the news, lurching from one disaster to another, and seeing that organizations antics concerning firearms I now have a very differant point of view. Trust and respect go hand in hand.
 
This is another T97 type of mess.
Approved, sold, then prohibited, their system was flawed.
I suspect a Section 74 challenge would be doomed, for mechanical reasons.
Political solution of compensation might be the only reasonable outcome for the owners.
 
stencollector said:
Careful, this crap isn't worth getting kicked off the board over.


Re the likely seizure of these guns: Without the compensation, the guys would be just as well off de-activating the BD38s. I doubt you could get much for the 3008 as a dewat, but the BD38s are worth almost as much dead or alive.
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I wish you were correct.... :(

I "had" a nice original MP40 Dewat.... Sold it when the BD's came in... I know I wouldn't pay original MP40 Dewat dough for a BD Dewat.... The fact that you could fire them was the only reason they were worth the money!

What are the chances of just turning in the registered receiver and having a nice parts kit?? A snowballs chance in hell??
 
Very likely you could do that, unless they go with the premise that since they are prohib, they were imported into the country improperly in the first place, and either need to be seized in their entirety, or else are only able to be sold under the conditions that apply to non-grandfathered prohibs. Those are things like government, museum, or movie use, but do not include deactivation...not sure about parts kits.

Did the FRT mention if the RCMP consider the magwell as the prohibited part of the BD3008? In that case, it may be possible to cut the magwell off and turn in only that.
 
The magwell precedent was set with the Sten. I suppose that if it applies to the Mk. III Sten, it would apply to the 3008.

In previous prohibitions/confiscations, offer to surrender only the receiver resulted in a threat of warrant & search.

Who knows?
 
stencollector said:
The reclassifications were due to the joke of a system that the firearms center was using to register newly made firearms. An importer would bring in something new, and he would dictate to the firearms center the characteristics, markings, and classification of the gun over the phone without the firearms center ever seeing the gun in question. They are now just playing catch up with that flaw in their system. Of course, having a repeatedly banned member of this board pointing out to the lab the anomalies of these guns compared to his guns did not help matters any.
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What is this about?
 
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