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leeelmer

leeelmer

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Hi guys
Just a note to remember.
Bought some once fired 270 Weatherby brass.
Now normally I don't buy once fired rifle brass, but as everyone knows, Weatherby brass is bloody expensive, so I did.
Sized them all, and started load development, on one of the starting loads, I shot it, and when I went to extract the brass only the bottom of the brass came out, rim and belt.
What the hell I thought, I am at a low load, and should not be even close to over pressure.
SO I got out the magnifying glass and inspected each brass(100) 50 of the brass had up to 7 extractor marks on the headstamps(they were very light)
So this was obviously not once fired brass, but had been fired multiple times, and at max psi.
Threw out over 50 of the brass, was not going to chance this again.
Just something to think about when purchasing "once" fired brass.
Make sure you inspect it very closely.
 
Good words of caution: thanks for bringing it up.

If bought thru CGN then I would recommend a discussion with the seller to rectify the situation and appropriate feedback / comments left regarding the transaction. I also once got 1F brass only to have it show up with obvious tooling marks from dirty dies indicating more than just 1F ... that or the chamber in the rifle was made of concrete.

Feedback on CGN is a key element to help keep people honest and accountable for what they sell / how they market the item for sale. Forum members using the EE would be wise to always make use of it.
 
Good advice. In my early days of reloading I bought "once" fired off the EE. It was absolutely trashed when I got it. I used to pickup range brass all the time too thinking it was a good score for reloading. Now I only buy new and don't waste my time with previously enjoyed brass
 
Best way to know if brass is near ready to separate at the head is to feel the inside of the brass wall with a thin stiff piece of wire...If the brass wall is getting thin in the head area you will feel the tell tail indent ring where the case wall is stretching.
 
With the popularity of wet tumbling used cases can look awfully pretty and new. It can be difficult to tell the condition even when looking closely. Low pressure cartridges in particular.
 
In this particular case, I bought the brass over 100 rounds from 3 different guys. And I had it for 6-8 months while the rifle was being built and will I was building my house, so I have no clue now who these particular rounds were from.
Sadly with the move and everything I did not keep track of who sent me witch brass.
 
^^^6MT...Just a guess but could be the buyers that did not respond with feed back were not 100% satisfied and that is how they politely let you know.
 
I think some people don't understand what once fired means. Or deprimed. I deprime as separate step, but other people seem to think full length resizing is depriming.
I've been stung a couple times buying used brass, however I just bought 100 Sako TRG 308 with primers still in, and in the original boxes. I'm very happy with them.
 
I got burned like that too. Bought a bunch of 25-06 brass (200), they were multiple neck lengths from being turned, and even more had cracks in the necks. All of it got thrown out and I only buy new brass now, lesson learned.
 
RePete said:
Some people sell once fired brass, but the question to is "How many times or guns was it once fired in?"
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I just loaded up some 223 from the huge box of brass you gave me 15 years ago or more.
Definitely only fired once, all still have the military crimps! Have to swage the pockets, but it's worth it, very consistent brass and lasts a long long time in my bolt guns.
I forget that other fella's name that use to have the once fired Norma 308...I still have a pile of that as well.
 
I've been a brass whore all my adult life! I started 60 years ago, when everybody was using the local gravel pits to sight in their hunting rifles, I would start in September and do the rounds of 6-7 local pits. Sometimes scoring 100+ cases. I know it was once fired because the empty boxes were on the ground with the brass! You can't do that these days!(Shoot in the gravel pits) I've sold some of it, in calibers that I don't load and never had a complaint.
YMMV!
 
I am sure that I have been "burned" in the past by buying "previously fired" brass - sometimes is years before I get around to using it, so I loose track where it came from. I have a stainless steel pin wet tumbler - so, I am quite able to make my cases sparkly shiny, if I want that. I have a lot of reloading gear - I am quite able to de-prime and re-size cases. But I have no way to come back from loose primer pockets - usually previous excess reloads and/or "hot" loads, or just plain crappy brass. I still do buy previously fired brass - but I no longer buy tumbled or de-primed cases - as mentioned in Post #16 - about primo to me is ex-military brass with the original primer still crimped in there - I do own swagers to deal with that - both sizes. Next best is the factory ones that still have the sealant colour on primer and pocket - is likely truly factory "once fired". I am crusty old fart - I won't even buy someone's product that they think they increased value by "processing it" and claiming it is ready to reload. Others may think differently about that.

Some takes a bit more "detective" work - I am too young to remember - but I am under impression that Norma brass always had small "NP" stamped on factory primers on factory loadings - Norma sold primers for reloading - same colour - but no "NP" stamp. Until I hear from someone that I trust who knows better, I want to see the "NP" stamp on the primer for it to be considered "once fired" Norma factory brass - like for 308 Norma Magnum, or 7x61 Sharpe & Hart. I do not know about more "modern" Norma loadings like for 300 Win Mag, etc.
 
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Lastgun said:
^^^6MT...Just a guess but could be the buyers that did not respond with feed back were not 100% satisfied and that is how they politely let you know.
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I doubt it.

I am in the same boat.

I don't sell junk. Usually it is better than what the person expects. I disclose everything, and I mean everything.

When I sell, I always check to make sure it got delivered and I know it did with F2F, and everything I mail is packaged to withstand being abused...
I always ask if everything was /is ok?
I always ask them to leave FB...some just never do.

When I am the buyer I always leave FB for the seller, and some sellers don't bother responding...
 
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