Beginner puzzled why reticle is blurry at shorter distances

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Dusty Boots

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Hey fellas,
I was excited to go to the range to sight in my first precision rifle a Savage 10 fcp-k with a Bushnell ET 1040 scope and was very frustrated by what followed. I boresighted the gun a few days before I went to the range with a Bushnell boresighter. I was at an indoor range that was 50m maximum but when I looked at my target at 50m I could see the target perfectly but the reticle was so blurry I could barely see it. That compounded with the fact that my top turret was labeled right and left adjustment but it was really up and down and the side turret was also opposite was frustrating until I figured that out after I got home.

When I got the the gun home after no luck getting a good zero after 16 shots, I looked at some objects further away than 50m and everything was clear and crisp including the reticle after about 75m on out. Is this a byproduct of it being a fixed power scope with no focus adjustment?

Now that I have my backwards turrets figured out and the scope re-boresighted, I should be able to get a good zero if I can shoot at something at 100m. Any explanation as to the issues I was having? Thanks fellas.
 
Thanks very much for that link legi0n, that was helpful. I actually had no idea there was an ocular focus on that scope. I'm not at home right now, but I will check that out when I get back. I assumed since it was a fixed scope there wasn't one. I read the manual but it was for the entire Elite Tactical line. Thanks for your constructive advice fellas.
 
Does no one read the f**king manual that comes with their optics? With the internet there's no excuse for ignorance. OP, you need to do a lot of reading before you do any amount of shooting, it will save you money/ammo and frustration.

TDC
 
TDC said:
Does no one read the f**king manual that comes with their optics? With the internet there's no excuse for ignorance. OP, you need to do a lot of reading before you do any amount of shooting, it will save you money/ammo and frustration.

TDC
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A beginner to the shooting sports asking a question on a "gun" forum seems completely reasonable to me. Your comment however does not.
 
Dusty Boots said:
Hey fellas,
I was excited to go to the range to sight in my first precision rifle a Savage 10 fcp-k with a Bushnell ET 1040 scope and was very frustrated by what followed. I boresighted the gun a few days before I went to the range with a Bushnell boresighter. I was at an indoor range that was 50m maximum but when I looked at my target at 50m I could see the target perfectly but the reticle was so blurry I could barely see it. That compounded with the fact that my top turret was labeled right and left adjustment but it was really up and down and the side turret was also opposite was frustrating until I figured that out after I got home.

When I got the the gun home after no luck getting a good zero after 16 shots, I looked at some objects further away than 50m and everything was clear and crisp including the reticle after about 75m on out. Is this a byproduct of it being a fixed power scope with no focus adjustment?

Now that I have my backwards turrets figured out and the scope re-boresighted, I should be able to get a good zero if I can shoot at something at 100m. Any explanation as to the issues I was having? Thanks fellas.
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Don't feel too bad, yesterday I wasted a box of rounds before my mind woke up and I stopped trying to adjust the elevation with the windage dial... As it turns out, proper rest the night before is key in many things we do.
 
TDC said:
Does no one read the f**king manual that comes with their optics? With the internet there's no excuse for ignorance. OP, you need to do a lot of reading before you do any amount of shooting, it will save you money/ammo and frustration.

TDC
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mossyhorns said:
A beginner to the shooting sports asking a question on a "gun" forum seems completely reasonable to me. Your comment however does not.
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Beginner or not, read the literature that comes with your gear. The answer was literally in his hands. Short of that the internet has plenty of information, likely more than the manual. Its seems many feel its easier to let others do the work for you instead of trying to figure it out on their own.

I'm glad he got the answer but it doesn't say much for our community or society when people fail to solve the simplest of problems without help.

Tdc
 
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TDC said:
Beginner or not, read the literature that comes with your gear. The answer was literally in his hands. Short of that the internet has plenty of information, likely more than the manual. Its seems many feel its easier to let others do the work for you instead of trying to figure it out on their own.

I'm glad he got the answer but it doesn't say much for our community or society when people fail to solve the simplest of problems without help.

Tdc
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There is no indication in the OP's original post that he had " literature" with his scope. It does appear however that he followed your advice to some degree as the last time I checked I have to go on the Internet to sign into Gunutz and its full of valuable information. I'm glad he got his answer and was able to solve his problem with a little help from sharing gunutters.
 
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There is no indication in the OP's original post that he had " literature" with his scope. It does appear however that he followed your advice to some degree as the last time I checked I have to go on the Internet to sign into Gunutz and its full of valuable information. I'm glad he got his answer and was able to solve his problem with a little help from sharing gunutters.
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I think its safe to presume that a new in box package rifle will come with literature. If not, try the optic manufacturers website or simply google. Instead people prefer to be spoonfed the answer. The smart choice would have been to do some research before purchasing a package rifle in the first place.

More reading, less shooting. Advice that will serve many here very well.

Tdc
 
Same thing happened to my father with his .300 winmag. He's always been a decent shot but for some reason with this gun he had no luck. Well after probably our 5th range trip to sight this thing in we'er talking about scopes and he mentions something about how this scope he's using has 3 sets of cross hairs so he was using the middle one. I'll admit I had a laugh at the old mans expense before showing him how to use the focus.
 
It seems you have put more effort into chastising the OP, than he did to find the info he was looking for. Who wins? Personally, I think these forums are great for simple info like this.
 
TDC said:
I think its safe to presume that a new in box package rifle will come with literature. If not, try the optic manufacturers website or simply google. Instead people prefer to be spoonfed the answer. The smart choice would have been to do some research before purchasing a package rifle in the first place.

More reading, less shooting. Advice that will serve many here very well.

Tdc
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For someone who seems very adamant that you should read all pertinent info on a particular subject, you failed to read this thread in its entirety and especially the post where I mentioned that I did in fact read the manual that came with my scope. However, the manual encompassed the entire Elite Tactical line, and I did read the part that talked about the eyepiece focus and I assumed (I now realize incorrectly) that my particular fixed power scope did not have an eyepiece focus. This conclusion was reached after I attempted to twist the eyepiece with a moderate amount of force and it did not move and I did not want to twist harder for fear of breaking something. After further investigation and a little harder twisting the focus did move and I now have the answer to my question.

Furthermore, if you would have read the thread in it's entirety you will also know that I did not purchase a package rifle. In fact, I did countless hours of research and settled on the equipment that I now possess. I lurked on these forums for a long time before I became a member and decided to become one because of all great information and helpful people in this community. So in the future, before you run your mouth, make sure you have read the thread in it's entirety and please be sure to check your ego at the door. Or do not post in my thread. Thank you.

Everyone makes mistakes, especially when they are a beginner, and I appreciate everyone who gave me constructive advice, and I hope that one day, not too far in the future, that I can be a valuable contributor as well. I'm enjoying the challenge of this new hobby, and I will report back when I have this thing zeroed properly and let you know how it went. I leave for work on Wednesday for a week and wont be able to get to the range before then, so it will be sometime after that. Thanks fellas, and take care.
 
Dusty Boots said:
For someone who seems very adamant that you should read all pertinent info on a particular subject, you failed to read this thread in its entirety and especially the post where I mentioned that I did in fact read the manual that came with my scope. However, the manual encompassed the entire Elite Tactical line, and I did read the part that talked about the eyepiece focus and I assumed (I now realize incorrectly) that my particular fixed power scope did not have an eyepiece focus. This conclusion was reached after I attempted to twist the eyepiece with a moderate amount of force and it did not move and I did not want to twist harder for fear of breaking something. After further investigation and a little harder twisting the focus did move and I now have the answer to my question.

Furthermore, if you would have read the thread in it's entirety you will also know that I did not purchase a package rifle. In fact, I did countless hours of research and settled on the equipment that I now possess. I lurked on these forums for a long time before I became a member and decided to become one because of all great information and helpful people in this community. So in the future, before you run your mouth, make sure you have read the thread in it's entirety and please be sure to check your ego at the door. Or do not post in my thread. Thank you.

Everyone makes mistakes, especially when they are a beginner, and I appreciate everyone who gave me constructive advice, and I hope that one day, not too far in the future, that I can be a valuable contributor as well. I'm enjoying the challenge of this new hobby, and I will report back when I have this thing zeroed properly and let you know how it went. I leave for work on Wednesday for a week and wont be able to get to the range before then, so it will be sometime after that. Thanks fellas, and take care.
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Dont let TDC get to you.

His selector setting is stuck on "unpleasant".
 
Dusty Boots said:
For someone who seems very adamant that you should read all pertinent info on a particular subject, you failed to read this thread in its entirety and especially the post where I mentioned that I did in fact read the manual that came with my scope. However, the manual encompassed the entire Elite Tactical line, and I did read the part that talked about the eyepiece focus and I assumed (I now realize incorrectly) that my particular fixed power scope did not have an eyepiece focus. This conclusion was reached after I attempted to twist the eyepiece with a moderate amount of force and it did not move and I did not want to twist harder for fear of breaking something. After further investigation and a little harder twisting the focus did move and I now have the answer to my question.

Furthermore, if you would have read the thread in it's entirety you will also know that I did not purchase a package rifle. In fact, I did countless hours of research and settled on the equipment that I now possess. I lurked on these forums for a long time before I became a member and decided to become one because of all great information and helpful people in this community. So in the future, before you run your mouth, make sure you have read the thread in it's entirety and please be sure to check your ego at the door. Or do not post in my thread. Thank you.

Everyone makes mistakes, especially when they are a beginner, and I appreciate everyone who gave me constructive advice, and I hope that one day, not too far in the future, that I can be a valuable contributor as well. I'm enjoying the challenge of this new hobby, and I will report back when I have this thing zeroed properly and let you know how it went. I leave for work on Wednesday for a week and wont be able to get to the range before then, so it will be sometime after that. Thanks fellas, and take care.
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I'm glad you read the manual, but you then failed to research your optic choice and failed to visit their website. A minute amount of research would indicate that any optic worth anything has an adjustable focus occular, much like binoculars of any quality. Upon closer review of your original post it appears you failed to do any significant research as you had your optic mounted incorrectly. Again, more reading, less shooting.

Tdc
 
Guys.......I've never read a positive comment by TDC..........he likes to stir the pot. :stirthepot2: I never take anything he says seriously........you shouldn't either. He claims that all are idiots.....except him. Moving on......
 
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