I really appreciate this. There was one firearms operations video that I found phenomenal. I am gonna try to look for it...it's not about the M4 (it's about the AR15/M16 - but worth watching...):
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Benelli M4 Super90 Initial Range Review
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I really appreciate this. There was one firearms operations video that I found phenomenal. I am gonna try to look for it...it's not about the M4 (it's about the AR15/M16 - but worth watching...):
[youtube]wMIBUIN30yU&t=6s[/youtube]
No problem G, the disassembly and assembly will get easier with repetition. Ah yes the MSR what a simple yet functional design.
My first few times with the 1301 Tac was a learning curve as well, but well worth it to know your firearm. And not quite as many moving pieces.
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Enjoy your SG it's amazing, and give yourself a pat on the back for venturing out of your zone. Kudos.
Yep those Benelli Tech GUide are good video guide!
These might be handy too, for diagram reference of parts: https://forums.benelliusa.com/topic/19363-benelli-m4-assembly-diagrams/
These might be handy too, for diagram reference of parts: https://forums.benelliusa.com/topic/19363-benelli-m4-assembly-diagrams/
I needed about 200-ish cheapy full power shells to break my M4s90 in, after that it's been completely flawless.
Absolutely fantastic shotgun!
Is that heat shield a Benelli product for the M4 or is it another one made to fit? It looks awesome and I can imagine very useful if you are firing a lot in succession.
Mine did need a break-in as well, but it wasn't very many.
I believe I took it out, put a pile of rounds through it, had a few hiccups, took it home and cleaned and spot oiled the rails, and I don't recall an issue since.
Recall I took mine out for a summer and shot nothing but #9 shot to bother the "that is a evil black gun" crowd". I haven't had it mess up at all, on any kinds of rounds, except the minishells (duh).
Oh, and re: The stock. Yes, it's very awkward collapsed, I assume it's more for carry and emergency offhand. Fully extended the firearm is operating as designers planned. I definitely like that it collapses though, fits on my back a lot better on hikes. Good golly I keep hoping to see that bigfoot. I keep leaving ham sandwiches out. I figure who doesn't love a good ham sandwich.
Oh...and you were right, that sig red dot IS supposed to be shake awake. Having to send it in for warranty, which sucks because the company that deals with sig warranty can be difficult to non LE folk.
I believe I took it out, put a pile of rounds through it, had a few hiccups, took it home and cleaned and spot oiled the rails, and I don't recall an issue since.
Recall I took mine out for a summer and shot nothing but #9 shot to bother the "that is a evil black gun" crowd". I haven't had it mess up at all, on any kinds of rounds, except the minishells (duh).
Oh, and re: The stock. Yes, it's very awkward collapsed, I assume it's more for carry and emergency offhand. Fully extended the firearm is operating as designers planned. I definitely like that it collapses though, fits on my back a lot better on hikes. Good golly I keep hoping to see that bigfoot. I keep leaving ham sandwiches out. I figure who doesn't love a good ham sandwich.
Oh...and you were right, that sig red dot IS supposed to be shake awake. Having to send it in for warranty, which sucks because the company that deals with sig warranty can be difficult to non LE folk.
I am glad to hear that you are sending in that Sig for warranty if the shake awake isn't working. Definitely (at least for me) is a dealbreaking feature, and is the key reason why I moved off Vortexes onto the Sig and Holosuns.
The good news is that there is (I think) some current sales on the Romeo5 from some of our sponsors, so perhaps a new one is in order while your old one is being repaired (likely they will just replace it).
So regarding the break-in for the M4, did you have feed issues initially as well?
I have been reading through my M4 manual and watching the videos and such. I do have a rather elementary question on something on the gun - that "cartridge release lever" or "cartridge load lever" - the little thing above the trigger guard. I understand (more or less) what it is for, but don't really see the generally wide application. Now, I have my gun for a little over a week, and have only taken it out once, but not in that whole time did I have to use that lever. I just load the tube mag, and then pull back the CH, load one in the chamber, close the bolt, and I start shooting. I am not even sure that that lever is a great feature, since I am thinking wouldn't it be possible to have a round or two in the magazine, and then the line gets called for a ceasefire or something, you go and cycle the action with the charging handle and it is apparently clear so you chamber flag it and leave the line but there is technically still a round in the tube. Sure, some people may remember that but others may forget and think cycling the bolt and nothing is coming out; therefore the presumption is that it is clear. Maybe I am misunderstanding how the whole thing works.
That one resets the action lock, or whatever it is called, so when you work the action it will stay open and disengages the cradle/lift so if you have shells in the tube, it won't bring one up.
I used it a lot to "show clear" if I only had one live round in the gun. Hopefully that makes sense. This is a really good firearm to practice working the action and really getting familiar with it. If there is ever a blockage or problem, you can get back up and running really fast. Thinking of 3 gun here.
On most shotguns that button releases the action, but this one works differently. The gun is still cocked and fire-able once you hit that button, so be careful.
I have to think back, this gun has been with me a long while, but I believe my issue was stovepipes that just jammed up the whole works, wouldn't eject, and couldn't load in a new shell. Was frustrating, but went away really quickly. Personal opinion is it's a manufacturing gimmik. They probably don't hand-fit guns anymore. So they make the tolerances just a bit too tight, so that your gun wears itself into itself, for more or less a custom fit. Oddly enough, the M2 I had was just a blowback system, I think it worked right out of the box without a hiccup ever, but the difference in recoil made the M4 well worth it. I believe I was warned it had a small break in period, maybe from a review or could have been the sales guy.
One thing I should mention...I think you said you got the tube extension...did you also get the stronger spring? If not you have to stretch the stock spring out a bit. I've never had issues with the magazine, but when I swapped mine it was noticeably softer to load, which was nice, BUT these are built to spec, changing something like mag tube length needs all the affected parts to be adjusted. Remember, these are combat shotguns, and generally the armorer would do all this work before the firearm is classified fit for service. Just things to keep in mind. These are legit, and why us fanbois gush over them.
I used it a lot to "show clear" if I only had one live round in the gun. Hopefully that makes sense. This is a really good firearm to practice working the action and really getting familiar with it. If there is ever a blockage or problem, you can get back up and running really fast. Thinking of 3 gun here.
On most shotguns that button releases the action, but this one works differently. The gun is still cocked and fire-able once you hit that button, so be careful.
I have to think back, this gun has been with me a long while, but I believe my issue was stovepipes that just jammed up the whole works, wouldn't eject, and couldn't load in a new shell. Was frustrating, but went away really quickly. Personal opinion is it's a manufacturing gimmik. They probably don't hand-fit guns anymore. So they make the tolerances just a bit too tight, so that your gun wears itself into itself, for more or less a custom fit. Oddly enough, the M2 I had was just a blowback system, I think it worked right out of the box without a hiccup ever, but the difference in recoil made the M4 well worth it. I believe I was warned it had a small break in period, maybe from a review or could have been the sales guy.
One thing I should mention...I think you said you got the tube extension...did you also get the stronger spring? If not you have to stretch the stock spring out a bit. I've never had issues with the magazine, but when I swapped mine it was noticeably softer to load, which was nice, BUT these are built to spec, changing something like mag tube length needs all the affected parts to be adjusted. Remember, these are combat shotguns, and generally the armorer would do all this work before the firearm is classified fit for service. Just things to keep in mind. These are legit, and why us fanbois gush over them.
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It's a mossberg 500 heat shield, i needed to trim the rear tabs down to clear the gas pistons, and trim the handguards down in height and make a clearance cut for the tabs at the back of the heat shield. A little bit of work to fit it on but not too bad.
It does make a ton of difference, the Benelli barrels are quite thin (hammer forged so they're incredibly strong and light) BUT they heat up quite quickly. I've gotten a good burn or two before with a hot barrel, and the heat shield does exactly what it's meant to!
There's such a thing as shooting for handling practice and for fun and no reason not to use utility ammo for that.
Absolutely correct. It's BS to say tactical shotguns are only for defense-oriented applications. Many tactical shotguns are used with non-lethal loads, some are used for 3-gun competition, I out-shoot my buddies at clays with a tactical shotgun, they can be configured for hunting fowl or deer, versatility is the real name of the game... Which is also synonymous with 12ga guns in general.
If you can only own and use one single gun, 12 guage shotgun with reasonable mag capacity, specifically a tube mag with top-up reloading and easy single-loading is the best choice. Even better if it's semi auto (managed recoil), and 18.5" barrel with chokes, the real sweet spot for 12ga versatility.
Edit: the shells I shoot most in mine are 2.75" #2 and BB, slugs and buckshot combined come close. #2/BB are super versatile and a smart investment on the farm and rec/practice. Perfect choice for varmint-predators (coyote, foxes stealing your birds, etc)
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Depends what mag you've got. US imports are limited capacity due to silly laws, in Canada we're technically limited to 5x 3" shells in mag (or, just under six shells).
We can use close to full capacity since that leaves us at six 2.75" shells possible in some guns.
We can use close to full capacity since that leaves us at six 2.75" shells possible in some guns.
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So with this 5 2-3/4 shells fit but not anymore
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5x 3" shells.
Mine fit 5x 2-3/4" shells just fine, got an S&J extension and it will fit 6x 2-3/4" shells and 5 3" shells.
There was a letter sent to the RCMP technical branch a while ago requesting a clarification on the legal capacity on a shotgun. They stated that the capacity was based on the LONGEST shell the shotgun was chambered to take, so the M4s90 was designed to take 3" magnum shells, and because of that the capacity (legal in Canada) is 5 3" magnum shells, or whatever combination of shorter shells can fit into it.
There are some 2-3/4" shells that have a shorter roll crimp that are a little longer, so it may be possible to only fit 4x 2-3/4" shells in it rather than 5, but i would think this is quite rare.
Thankfully it works just fine with "utility ammo", otherwise it would be a much less useful shotgun than it actually is.
