- Location
- Maple Ridge, BC
I "had" some and the followers were marked 556....
Beowulf Magazines?
- Thread starter blaxsun
- Start date
Even if we had single shot rifles there would still be people offended
It's called being aware of your surroundings, if you have farmer Brown and the rest of his Fudd gang sitting around you sighting in their 30-06's and you walk up to the line with your Beowulf mag and a Lantec Dragon on a 10 inch AR and run off 4 mags with 15 rounds you can be sure they're going to be a little pissy and probably complain. Same thing if you go to a gravel pit so close to town that Betty-housewife thinks you're in her back yard and you are doing mag dumps you can be pretty sure she's going to call the police.
On the other hand, if you are at the range and it's just you and a couple buddies there, or you're out in the bush miles from town, or if you're at a 3-gun match then I'm pretty sure no one is going to give a rats a$s and you can have all the fun you want.
I'm not blaming the guys that are out having fun, I'm blaming the idiots that have no consideration for others and who think that just because they are legal they can enjoy them anywhere without pissing off the locals.
What are the cops going to say to someone who calls in a complaint? "Don't worry lady they're not doing anything wrong" or "we'll look into it and put a stop to it".
I'm just saying that since there are more Lieberal brainwashed idiots out there than there are people who support our rights as law abiding gun owners that we need to be smarter than a 17 year old who just stole his dads BMW while the parents are out of town.
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DiabeticKripple
CGN Regular
- Location
- Red Deer, Alberta
I use AA 5-round Beo mags with my AR. Throw me in jail for being a threat to public safety.
I have 3 PCV mags that have seen lots of use. I also have a dozen 25 and 110 round 10/22 mags unpinned that I still use. RCMP do not make the law. Agreeing to their interpretation by pinning your mags only helps gives them the power they are assuming.
blaxsun
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
So how'd you vote in the poll?
I don't think anyone is agreeing with them but is it worth your time and money fighting in court for years and potentially losing your firearms license while you get drug through the legal system? Do you think the community will rally behind you and collect donations to help you pay your legal fees? You'd be lucky to get a couple hundred dollars out of people these days for something like this.
I can't afford to lose my job over being able to put 5 more rounds in a magazine and I don't want to spend one second in police custody just to prove a point.
If we really want this to change we should be pooling our finances and hiring a lawyer to fight this crap but simply giving them the finger and continuing on like nothing has happened is asking for trouble.
I've said it numerous times in the other Beowulf threads that instead of spending $100+ on a magazine (they used to be $150 each for a $25 magazine with a $125 stamp) we should have spent all that money on a lawyer to take the whole magazine limit thing to court and show that there is no increase in public safety with them limited and maybe we would simply get to drill out the rivet and have standard capacity magazines again.
I think I hear your mom calling, time to go do the dishes and take out the trash. Your computer time is over for the day.
It's just a poll, if you don't like it don't participate. 128 votes tells me that many people aren't quite so paranoid.
Maybe we should stop talking about guns on this forum, we wouldn't want to offend anyone or draw police attention to our favorite recreational activity, next thing you know they'll try to prohibit detachable magazines since we keep talking about them in all the threads asking which ones are the best.
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blaxsun
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
For the time being, yes. There aren't any indications this could change although none of us exactly have a crystal ball...
^^ this, you will be on your own to hire a lawyer to defend you. There have been people charged with this offence and the gun orgs offered no help to the accused to take it to trial.
It will take a year min to get in front of a judge on the matter and you will be under conditions of your promise to appear which can include all sorts of things that may limit your ability to earn a living while you wait. (as an example, my drivers license was taken away while I awaited court and the charges were not related to driving). The police and crown does everything in their power to exhaust your funds before trial, they will offer deals and intentionally delay the trial to run you out of money, force you out of your home, ruin your marriage, alienate you from your friends so at least they have punished you one way even if the charges are thrown out.
You will of course have your firearms seized and will be under a firearms ban for the duration of your charges as well
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Totally worth it just to be able to put 5 extra rounds in the magazine and play in a gravel pit shooting cans.
"innocent until proven guilty" really is a joke considering how our court/justice system operates today
I now only have newly imported AA mags that are pinned to the 2 rnd capacity. Not worth having to explain holes in the mag, carry paperwork as to what gunsmith re pinned them to RCMP specifications, etc
We don't have a justice system we have a legal system.
You don't need paperwork as long as they can't hold more than five rounds of 223. You can legally remove the rivets and replace them or move them if they are causing functional problems, you're just repairing the magazine not modifying it. You can drill as many holes in your magazines as you want and there is nothing they can do as long as they only hold five rounds of 223 when you are stopped with them. Remember, this isn't law... yet.
Grey area, the RCMP have released a notice but it is not law yet so technically they are still legal but at the same time if you put fifteen rounds of 223 in it and there is someone nearby who wants to make your life miserable you may be spending some time away from your firearms while you spend thousands in court fighting to prove that regardless of the notice it isn't the law yet and that the 5 rounds capacity (if you filled them with 50 Beowulf) is still legal. This may be hard to do since many of the Beowulf mags have 223 followers in them and won't actually function with Beowulf rounds (some do and some don't).
In the end everyone has to decide for themselves if it's worth the potential headache just to carry five extra rounds. If I was competing in 3-gun I would probably still use mine unless the range officer or club had a problem with them but for recreational shooting where time doesn't matter I don't personally think it's worth the trouble just to be able to heat up your barrel a little faster and burn through more ammo.
http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/cfp-pcaf/bulletins/bus-ent/20110323-72-eng.htm
http://calibremag.ca/rcmp-prohibit-50-beowulf-magazines/
Draw your own conclusions
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