Beretta 1301 question

[1ABNDT]

Why would I need it to do that......im not in a war zone or need it fold up. If you want to pretending to soldier good on you.
My M4 is for hunting and target practice.
However, if the 1301 is sooooo amazing why hasn't ANY military around the world adopted it.

The 1301 is a great shotgun no doubt about it but an M4 killer it is not.

So you got all buttthurt because your M4 doesn't fold & now you are going to attack my persons


Do you listen to yourself before you speak?
(Why would I need that "I'm not in a war zone", "pretending to be a soldier")

Yet you own the exact same thing you say you don't need, oh, you're one of those(if it has a pistol grip) it's a weapon of war types.


Since when does a folding stock make it "military"


Anyways, enjoy your M4, say hi to the wifey & let her know that she made the better choice.

 

[milkbone96]

I have shot the 1301 my wife has one, its ok but feels cheaper imo.

Agree that stock furniture could be better. Swap out the stock and handguard, and you've a totally different beast.

 

[1ABNDT]

However, if the 1301 is sooooo amazing why hasn't ANY military around the world adopted it.

Since you asked,

The Beretta 1301 Tactical is utilized by various elite units, federal task forces, and state agencies globally, though many deployments are kept undisclosed for operational security.

The shotgun is officially cataloged and purchased under Beretta's various tactical programs.

Law Enforcement & Government Agencies

• • Pennsylvania Game Commission: Adopted 250 units in 2021 for use by their officers and game wardens.
  • U.S. Federal Task Forces: Frequently purchased and fielded by federal-level U.S. law enforcement agencies.
  • Global Police Forces: Widely adopted by local and regional police departments, with variants also used by Italian specialized tactical police units (like NOCS and GIS).

Military & Defense

• NATO Militaries: Used by various NATO-aligned military forces for specialized close-quarters, breaching, and combat operations.
• Special Operations: Evaluated and utilized by elite combat teams requiring a fast-cycling, lightweight, and concealable 12-gauge shotgun

Don't forget to tell the wife so she has something to razz you with, I'm sure you have told her the same lines as you did to me

 

[Cteve]

Wow you sure are coping hard with that purchase eh. Its ok not everyone can afford the best.
Besides I do use her gun quit often and like I said it is a good gun BUT in "my" opinion it is not as good for me as the M4.
it feels cheaper in hand, kicks alot more and sure it is faster but that doesn't really matter for my use.
Not sure why you are trying so hard to change my mind.....or is it your mind you are trying to change lol.

 

[Painkillers]

Wow you sure are coping hard with that purchase eh. Its ok not everyone can afford the best.
Besides I do use her gun quit often and like I said it is a good gun BUT in "my" opinion it is not as good for me as the M4.
it feels cheaper in hand, kicks alot more and sure it is faster but that doesn't really matter for my use.
Not sure why you are trying so hard to change my mind.....or is it your mind you are trying to change lol.

You seem to have no idea who you're talking to.

The M4 is a great shotgun. Arguably the first reliable auto shotgun, but that's a 25 year old statement. The 1301 has some age to it now, is a new design, is lighter, cleaner, more economical, faster (as you've acknowledged.), and to some, that makes it the better platform.

 

[Cteve]

You seem to have no idea who you're talking to.

The M4 is a great shotgun. Arguably the first reliable auto shotgun, but that's a 25 year old statement. The 1301 has some age to it now, is a new design, is lighter, cleaner, more economical, faster (as you've acknowledged.), and to some, that makes it the better platform.

Ohhhhh forgive little ol me I didnt know there were shotgun gods on this forum lol....
You like fast new age sports cars I like old muscle cars....is one better then the other maybe but that doesn't mean I have to agree with you on the one "you" think is best.
sorry bud im also allowed to have my opinion

 

[BLCB]

Both are fantastic shotguns with slight edges in certain respects over one another. Someone owning either is missing nothing over all.

 

[Cteve]

Both are fantastic shotguns with slight edges in certain respects over one another. Someone owning either is missing nothing over all.

couldn't have said it better myself. However the 1301 fan boys will surely disagree

 

[BLCB]

couldn't have said it better myself. However the 1301 fan boys will surely disagree

I would consider myself in the 1301 camp but honestly it's a 6 of one, half a dozen of the other sort of deal for me. Neither have ever let me down.

 

[Bangalore]

Both are fantastic shotguns with slight edges in certain respects over one another. Someone owning either is missing nothing over all.

Well said!
That is why I own both
Would love to add a Beretta Tx4 Storm to the stable for nostalgia sake.

 

[BLCB]

Well said!
That is why I own both

That was my answer to the dilemma as well. The M4 was under $2000 when I bought mine though. I don't think you could find them used for that much for a long while now.

 

[machone]

The Italians are enjoying this argument very much.

 

[Yuu]

The Italians are enjoying this argument very much.

Pineapple on pizza is illegal but tomatoes are fine.

I bought 3 M4s in my lifetime. It is great shotgun but LOP and weight for today time are outdated. The 1301 is way better handling and lighter shotgun and I have been eyeing for one in grey finish.

It would not surprise me that Beretta will make heavy duty version of the 1301 for the military contract,.

 

[1ABNDT]

Wow you sure are coping hard with that purchase eh. Its ok not everyone can afford the best.
Besides I do use her gun quit often and like I said it is a good gun BUT in "my" opinion it is not as good for me as the M4.
it feels cheaper in hand, kicks alot more and sure it is faster but that doesn't really matter for my use.
Not sure why you are trying so hard to change my mind.....or is it your mind you are trying to change lol.

Once again you deflected from my retorts as per your last incoherent post.



The only one coping is you, I can easily afford not only the shotgun you have but the top of the line model too, & your wife's shotty.

Why would I overpay for an outdated design like you did.

Aw, the poor little 2 amed guy can't handle a little recoil so he gave it to his wife to show him how it's done.

If you want, next time I go to the range I can video tape for you how a 1 armed guy handles the 1301 Tactical that you can't.

 

[Cteve]

Once again you deflected from my retorts as per your last incoherent post.



The only one coping is you, I can easily afford not only the shotgun you have but the top of the line model too, & your wife's shotty.

Why would I overpay for an outdated design like you did.

Aw, the poor little 2 amed guy can't handle a little recoil so he gave it to his wife to show him how it's done.

If you want, next time I go to the range I can video tape for you how a 1 armed guy handles the 1301 Tactical that you can't.

Not sure why you guys are attacking me on this issue, you do you bud.
All im saying is that I prefer the M4 over the 1301. if you like the 1301 better thats fine. ...i really don't care either way and am going to keep my opinion.
I hope you enjoy your range time and would be happy to join you.