Beretta shoots low... and to the right *UPDATE - suck less*

Still alive said:
I'm just trying to find every reason I can think of so you don't have to switch sights and keep the 92 John McLane approved! :)
Is this the first DA/SA gun you've shot?
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I found a way!... suck less f:P:2:

After a good amount of dry fire practice last night, and noticing that with the Beretta I tend to drop the muzzle a bit on the trigger break. I went to the range again... these were the results from just a few hours dry firing while balancing an empty casing on top of the pistol:



I kinda feel bad for wasting everyone's time, when it was just my crappy technique. But without all your help (special mention to Still Alive and Daver) I'd still be sure I was perfect, like in all other aspects of my life ;), and that the gun was the issue.
 
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That is what the CGN community is all about. Plus, there are ALWAYS "ghost members" who don't want to ask, but may have a similar experience. This helps answer pertinent but unasked questions. It is all educational. Now people know how to cure a flinchy shot!!
 
sgt.rock said:
That is what the CGN community is all about. Plus, there are ALWAYS "ghost members" who don't want to ask, but may have a similar experience. This helps answer pertinent but unasked questions. It is all educational. Now people know how to cure a flinchy shot!!
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Thank you Sarge,

I have found a few similar threads on American forums... so maybe this can help others that think their pistol may be the problem.

There were two useful posts out there I ran across last night:

1. The empty casing trick that a shooting instructor used to cure a Beretta shooter of his low shots. (And subsequently, me)

2. A very simple post that just wrote "97% of the time it is not the sights". We all know stats are BS, but it gave me hope to go try it again before forking out for an adjustable sight I really didn't want in the first place.
 
Hey ChromeArty!
Way to man up and check your ego at the door! That's how you learn and progress.
I'm really impressed that you got all that from a night of dry fire practice. See how tight your groups got? As well as how centered they became?
A hearty congrats and well done!!
Now keep practicing. You now know the gun is capable but your skills are perishable! :)
 
Still alive said:
Hey ChromeArty!
Way to man up and check your ego at the door! That's how you learn and progress.
I'm really impressed that you got all that from a night of dry fire practice. See how tight your groups got? As well as how centered they became?
A hearty congrats and well done!!
Now keep practicing. You now know the gun is capable but your skills are perishable! :)
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Thank you so so much! You're encouragement kept me going back to the drawing board.

My wife is away for a week, which permitted me to sit in front of the TV watching a couple new episodes of Hell on Wheels on Netflix whilst balancing a casing on the Beretta and dry firing at the TV (a kid at heart). Hard to believe it made such a difference, but it did!

I would dryfire a couple times between magazines at the range as well. That flinch wants to creep back in so quickly! It is something I feel I will have to work on for many years to rid myself of.

Many many thanks! :)
 
ChromeArty said:
I would dryfire a couple times between magazines at the range as well. That flinch wants to creep back in so quickly! It is something I feel I will have to work on for many years to rid myself of.
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Just remember there is a difference between a flinch and anticipating recoil. One happens before the shot is made and one happens after the shot is made and can be very hard to distinguish. Even top shooters will experience muzzle dip when a dummy round is thrown into the mix and are trying to manage recoil when there is none to manage.
 
A concentration trick I've used in the past is to stand directly in front of a blank target backer, aim at it, then close my eyes and squeeze a few shots off. Without the distraction of aiming, you can get a better feel for your grip and the trigger, work on one thing at a time. Once you're thoroughly familiar with the particular element you're working on, whether it's sight picture, grip, or trigger feel, you can add another element to the mix.
I'd be surprised if your shooting didn't improve.
Those are good results, by the way. Nice shooting!
 
Chilly807 said:
A concentration trick I've used in the past is to stand directly in front of a blank target backer, aim at it, then close my eyes and squeeze a few shots off. Without the distraction of aiming, you can get a better feel for your grip and the trigger, work on one thing at a time. Once you're thoroughly familiar with the particular element you're working on, whether it's sight picture, grip, or trigger feel, you can add another element to the mix.
I'd be surprised if your shooting didn't improve.
Those are good results, by the way. Nice shooting!
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Thank you so much!!

I am willing to try any shooting advice sent my way after the last results!
 
Just picked up a 92A1 off of the EE. It arrives next week. With berettas and others being made using CNC machinery, tolerances are pretty tight for most guns made today. In most cases about the only variable to deal with is ammo and of course the shooter. My usual blasters are the range are CZ's and my SIG 226. When the bullet ends up somewhere other than where I was aiming...not the gun. Glad you worked it out. Looking forward to playing with my Beretta when it arrives.

Take Care

Bob
 
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