Beretta's new striker pistol
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It doesn't. It has proprietary magazines.
NinjaNikki
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I'm undecided on how I feel about how it looks, I can't quite put my finger on what is missing for me. That being said will have to pick one up in my hand and maybe shoot to make a true decision on it.
Two-thirds of all US police departments use Glock along with the FBI, DEA, U.S. Marshals, and BATFE (just to name a few).
I think a lot was a bad choice of words, lol.
You can hate all you want but they're clearly the king of the polymer segment and will be for a very long time.
My choice of words is adequate. Your comprehension of what I said is seemingly the issue. At no point in time did I disparage the Glock. I do not "hate" it as you said. In fact I think it is a very proven design and a overall good pistol. I have no idea where or why you get the impression I hate Glock simply because I said it has reached the top of its game and its use is slowly leveling off.
It is not hard to comprehend that some agencies recently have been selecting the M&P and other pistols over the Glock simply because of the field strip with the trigger having to be pulled issue. Agencies want stupid proof firearms for its users. The M&P and others fit the bill better then Glock because of this newer requirement that has seemingly popped up over the last decade. This newer requirement that some agencies are using as part of its selection criteria, is and will slowly disqualify Glock from being considered when purchasing side arms or replacing them until Glock redesigns its gun.
As I said in my previous post, with the saturation of the market with numerous striker fired, polymer pistols, the Glock doesn't stand out as much anymore from the competition. In fact it now lags behind them to a certain extent because of the reason I stated before. Yes it is in currently in large use by a lot of different groups. I never stated otherwise. But a I said earlier, alot of agencies are changing them out for other guns. Which is true.
The Glock's percentage of the market share among agencies, forces and armies will be diminishing over time as its design is proving to be dated in this one regard and other pistols are seemingly just as good. It may be King now as you claim, but it wont be for much longer. The cold hard truth hurts some times. Saying it doesn't make me a hater though.
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Um departments are dropping the M&P faster than anything in previous history. I don't see Glock losing it's king of the mountain status anytime soon. Beretta lost a lot of business, not because the Glock was better, but because Beretta sucked at dealing with agencies.
Yeah no one is using the 92 anymore. I think Sudbury is or was the one of the last in Canada to use them.
Here's the first three Google pulled up:
Texas DPS Ditches S&W M&P Handguns Over Reliability Issues
http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2014/04/foghorn/texas-dps-ditches-sw-mp-handguns-reliability-issues-returns-sig-sauer/
Atlanta PD Transitions to Glock Pistols
http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2013/07/25/atlanta-pd-transitions-glock-pistols/
North Carolina troopers to replace nearly 2,000 guns
http://www.wsoctv.com/news/news/local/north-carolina-troopers-replace-nearly-2000-guns/nZP93/
Yeah, I am aware that some PDs have transitioned from the M&P to other choices. Switching to one brand or another happens just as often as the old contract comes up for renewal. (Go figure).
Milwaukee Police Dept Converts to Smith & Wesson M&P40 Pistols
San Antonio Police Dept Converts to Smith & Wesson M&P Pistols
Police Depts Upgrade M&Ps, Increasingly Switch to 9mm
Three Agencies Select S&W M&P Duty Pistol
What I was asking for was some credible evidence supporting the statement that the M&P was now being dropped at some phenomenal rate. S&W had claimed in 2008, for example, that more than 275 PDs had switched to the M&P. I'd like to see some numbers about how many of those, for example, have moved on to another platform.
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Sudbury rececently dropped the 96 and went with the M&P40. Midland and West Nippissing, Ontario, both dropped the 96 just a few years ago (5 or 6?) in favour of Glocks (Midland, anyway).
Looks like Beretta is playing catch up after not offering a viable replacement for the 92/ 96 for the law enforcement market. I doubt any agency that already switched to Glock or Smith and Wesson would come back for this hideous peice of polymer but time will tell.
