Buy an original.
It will never be worth less than what you paid for it.
What he said.
Buy an original.
It will never be worth less than what you paid for it.
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What he said.
Mmmm I couldnt prove that from my last visit to the spring Cal gun show...not an original 86' under 4 grand ( very plain & rode hard put away wet types), What I would characterize as "nice" were all over 5 grand & up to 7Maybe stating the obvious, but nice originals aren’t much more than the modern copies…
Both browning/miroku and Winchester /miroku have made a copy of the Winchester 95.I have one of the Winchester/miroku made 1895 carbines in 30/06I have own different 1886 , original winchester 1886 , the 71 , the pedersoli , chiappa , miroku. 89 , My favorite is pedersoli/chiappa , many have telling me chiappa are not great but for me fit and finish was over winchester/miroku , and steel use are pretty strong better then the one use in new miroku winchester , pedersoli offer stainless steel version , the action on pedersoli/chiappa are way more smoother then the winchester/miroku , winchester try to upgrated many old model design by john browning and not in great way , like the high wall very simple and strong action winchester upgrate it in b78 /1885 and was total nightmare to work on modern action . Why i prefere the model clone of the original one . My 1886 have been modified into .50 alaskan , .50-110 , and .50 b&m alaskan , model 89 was big horn armory short version in .500 s&w magnum and not smooth and reliable as the pedersoli/chiappa , so sold it . The only winchester im still looking was the 1895 because no one made a reproduction or clone of it .
They use the miroku as the base and remove the safety/ add a one piece firing pin. Refinish the wood and case harden the receiverSaw an add for a turnbull restorations 86. Starting at $1995 usd. Looked flawless in the pic. Dont know which make they use as a base but their work is top notch
Miroku made the first 1886's? I don't think so. Or are you referring to the reissued versions from first Browning and later Winchester? - danWinchester and browning , miroku are not copy , is made by the original brand who made it at the start .
It’s made under license by miroku, that’s far from the original brand, which has been bought out multiple times.Winchester and browning , miroku are not copy , is made by the original brand who made it at the start .
I have a Pedersoli clone. Mine has the 26” round barrel and is a 1:18” twist. It has the color case hardened finish and the crescent butt end. The wood has very nice tiger stiping.Pedersoli are the best of the Italian versions. No added safety or lawyer scripting on the barrel. Metal fit,finish & bluing are excellent.
https://www.davide-pedersoli.com/en/product/1886-lever-action-sporting
Original guns were not made in JapanBut miroku are the factory who made winchester/browning ,so is not a copy or clone , is just a new version . Is not like chiappa ,or pedersoli
I wouldn't be a buyer because of this.Also the Winchester /Miroku made guns have tang safeties and rebounding hammers which were not on the Original gunstt
I went with the lighter weight Pedersoli 86/71 version with the bolt mount aperture. Very comfortable to shoot with my hardcast loads & accurateI have a Pedersoli clone. Mine has the 26” round barrel and is a 1:18” twist. It has the color case hardened finish and the crescent butt end. The wood has very nice tiger stiping.
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I haven’t tried a Mikuru or a Browning. My Pedersoli is a very accurate rifle. Easily makes hits on steel out to 300m with the iron sights and my hand loads. The balance is incredible. For a big heavy piece of steel, it shoulders naturally and feels just great. The action is as smooth as butter. The loading gate is also very smooth even with the big torpedo rounds. The only safety is the half c o c k position. And the fit and finish is flawless.
It’s clear you prefer the “original” design over the Miroku reproductions, and fair enough; everyone is entitled to their preferences. However, I’ve got to challenge your opinion that Pedersoli and Chiappa versions user better steel than Miroku. I think this is extremely unlikely and I’m wondering what you are basing this statement on.I have own different 1886 , original winchester 1886 , the 71 , the pedersoli , chiappa , miroku. 89 , My favorite is pedersoli/chiappa , many have telling me chiappa are not great but for me fit and finish was over winchester/miroku , and steel use are pretty strong better then the one use in new miroku winchester , pedersoli offer stainless steel version , the action on pedersoli/chiappa are way more smoother then the winchester/miroku , winchester try to upgrated many old model design by john browning and not in great way , like the high wall very simple and strong action winchester upgrate it in b78 /1885 and was total nightmare to work on modern action . Why i prefere the model clone of the original one . My 1886 have been modified into .50 alaskan , .50-110 , and .50 b&m alaskan , model 89 was big horn armory short version in .500 s&w magnum and not smooth and reliable as the pedersoli/chiappa , so sold it . The only winchester im still looking was the 1895 because no one made a reproduction or clone of it .