Best 1886 rifle?

The first ones miroku made 86 &95s were made for browning the ones with the added safeties were made for winchester
As I stated, the miroku made rifles/carbine's did not have the added tang safety at first, and added them later. There is no other differen̈ce aside from the stamping, Browning and Winchester are branches of the same company. - dan
 
looks like this is a very old conversation, but I will add my .02 in the mix. I had a miroku 1886 in 45-70, the "extra light". Thankfully it had the shotgun style buttplate, not that wicked STUPID crescent hook. (Biggest flinch-inducing invention ever!!). I made my own reloads, 300gr cast bullet, 33gr of 5744, I didn't clock it but @ 1400fps. Regardless, it still kicked hard. The red spots on my shoulder skin surface is enough proof? Yup. Plus bruising. I shoot many hard kickers, .375, 300 mags, etc. So no stranger to recoil. I sold it, for what I paid. Good riddance.
Used the money to get a original 1886 with 26 inch bll, 45-70, refinished, perfect bore. Even with the crescent plate, it's not as bad. Just make sure it's in shoulder, not the upper point! Later, I got a shotgun butt from Western Guns parts in Edmonton, and just fitted it. Put on a pachmayer old english 1/2 inch pad. Those 2 things totally transformed it into a beauty to shoot. It confounds me that they made the extra lite in 45-70. I suspect that federal or whatever, 405 gr factory loads would kick even worse. So my suggestion is.. Prophet river firearms in Lloyminster AB. They have a bunch of most makes, peder's, chiappa,
uberti, in most calibers, occasional originals but prices jump. I would look for a model without the crescent hook. Ken
 
Buy an original.
It will never be worth less than what you paid for it.

looks like this is a very old conversation, but I will add my .02 in the mix. I had a miroku 1886 in 45-70, the "extra light". Thankfully it had the shotgun style buttplate, not that wicked STUPID crescent hook. (Biggest flinch-inducing invention ever!!). I made my own reloads, 300gr cast bullet, 33gr of 5744, I didn't clock it but @ 1400fps. Regardless, it still kicked hard. The red spots on my shoulder skin surface is enough proof? Yup. Plus bruising. I shoot many hard kickers, .375, 300 mags, etc. So no stranger to recoil. I sold it, for what I paid. Good riddance.
Used the money to get a original 1886 with 26 inch bll, 45-70, refinished, perfect bore. Even with the crescent plate, it's not as bad. Just make sure it's in shoulder, not the upper point! Later, I got a shotgun butt from Western Guns parts in Edmonton, and just fitted it. Put on a pachmayer old english 1/2 inch pad. Those 2 things totally transformed it into a beauty to shoot. It confounds me that they made the extra lite in 45-70. I suspect that federal or whatever, 405 gr factory loads would kick even worse. So my suggestion is.. Prophet river firearms in Lloyminster AB. They have a bunch of most makes, peder's, chiappa,
uberti, in most calibers, occasional originals but prices jump. I would look for a model without the crescent hook. Ken
Yes sir, those old crescent butts were brutal. Not bad on 1892 or 1894 with their milder rounds. My friend has a beauty original 86 45/90, 26 inch octagon, crescent butt. Came with original loading tools and a vintage part box of 500 grain bullet factory loads. He said he'd rather be beat with a 2x4 than fire one of the factory loads again. The extra light 86 in 45/70 kicks pretty good but the shotgun butt makes a difference.
 
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