best .270 moose round
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PerversPépère
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The new Core-Lokt Ultras (looks like an AccuBond) seem to be really good.
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I would not recommend a 270 for hunting moose, not enough shock power. It is a good deer round but too light for moose. You need a 30 cal round that is at least 180 grains, 200 grain is better.
A 270 is completely adequate and lethal for moose. Just be sure you have a bullet that won't come apart on impact, or shortly after. 150 grain bullets are best and at one time Dominion Ammunition made a round nose, 160 grain. Something along the lines of a 150 grain Nosler partition is excellent.
Sorry I disagree a 130 grain round on moose is foolish, you risk wounding the animal and having it go into deep water or marsh etc. Moose are very large animals, at least here in BC they are.
MusicianShooter
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- SW Ontario
*Gong* Wrong, IMHO. Just got back from moose hunting up near Prince George. Dad bagged a spike bull, .270 with the cheap Federal ammo. Got a through-and-through, straight in the lungs. Moose walked 20 yrds and dropped, almost zero meat loss. The good old "Bang-Flop"
By contrast others in our party took a cow two days later, shot with .300 WSM (I think) and, partly due to angle, partly due to new hunter shot placement ("I aimed for the big black part")
there was more meat spoilage. Oh and sidebar, the moose then walked 30 yrds, stumbled, and fell off a cliff. Took 5 of us 6 hours to dress and extract/winch that one. Fun times.I'm sold on .270. That Remington pump rifle is staying in the family forever.
X2. While you may not want to try a Texas Heart Shot, a 270 is a completely adequate moose round, especially when used with the appropriate bullet. I would also pick a load with a 150 gr Partition.
come on guys
holy man,
.270 .300 here in nova scotia we shoot them with a .22mag and never loose them.there not like a deer u can get close enough to a mose to hit him with a stick.forget the heart and lung shot be a shooter and hit him behind the ear won't move five feet!
holy man,
.270 .300 here in nova scotia we shoot them with a .22mag and never loose them.there not like a deer u can get close enough to a mose to hit him with a stick.forget the heart and lung shot be a shooter and hit him behind the ear won't move five feet!
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- Somewhere on the Hudson Bay Coast
If you can't do it with the .270, then you probably can't do it with anything else either.
I prefer heavy bullets myself, and if I carried a .270 I would prefer a 150 gr bullet for moose. But if all I could get was a 130 gr bullet for my .270 I wouldn't pass up the trip. The rule of thumb is to choose a bullet that has a reasonable expectation of killing the animal with a single shot from any direction or angle within the range limitations of the cartridge or shooter.
We should consider why the 150 might be a better choice under some circumstances than the 130. Both bullets will open up to about .60 caliber upon impact, although some lead core bullets might show a slightly larger upset due to the longer core of the 150's compared to the 130's. However, should both bullets have an impact velocity of about 2900 fps, the resulting wound volumes would be very similar. The advantage of the 150 should be in slightly deeper penetration although in practice the difference might be more theoretical than real as the higher impact velocity of the lighter bullet makes up for the larger mass of the heavier bullet. The difference in penetration hinges on many variables not the least of which would include the construction of the bullet, it's impact velocity, and whether the bullet impacts any large bones as it passes through the target. The 150 would have an advantage on a quartering shot, but there again it depends if the bullet only encounters soft tissue, which may not be the case if the shot is quartering towards.
The .270's advantage is also its disadvantage, that being high impact velocity, particularly with 130 gr bullets. With impact velocities of 3000 fps, the velocity range where cup and core bullets will reliably function has been far exceeded. If there is a place for premium bullets it is when the 130 gr .270 is to be used on heavy game like moose. Therefore if I had to choose between factory .270 ammo for moose I would make a conscious effort to find ammo loaded with a premium bullet. I don't think it matters which brand you choose, or whether the bullet is a mono-metal design or a bonded core design provided your rifle is sighted in for the ammo you carry.
I prefer heavy bullets myself, and if I carried a .270 I would prefer a 150 gr bullet for moose. But if all I could get was a 130 gr bullet for my .270 I wouldn't pass up the trip. The rule of thumb is to choose a bullet that has a reasonable expectation of killing the animal with a single shot from any direction or angle within the range limitations of the cartridge or shooter.
We should consider why the 150 might be a better choice under some circumstances than the 130. Both bullets will open up to about .60 caliber upon impact, although some lead core bullets might show a slightly larger upset due to the longer core of the 150's compared to the 130's. However, should both bullets have an impact velocity of about 2900 fps, the resulting wound volumes would be very similar. The advantage of the 150 should be in slightly deeper penetration although in practice the difference might be more theoretical than real as the higher impact velocity of the lighter bullet makes up for the larger mass of the heavier bullet. The difference in penetration hinges on many variables not the least of which would include the construction of the bullet, it's impact velocity, and whether the bullet impacts any large bones as it passes through the target. The 150 would have an advantage on a quartering shot, but there again it depends if the bullet only encounters soft tissue, which may not be the case if the shot is quartering towards.
The .270's advantage is also its disadvantage, that being high impact velocity, particularly with 130 gr bullets. With impact velocities of 3000 fps, the velocity range where cup and core bullets will reliably function has been far exceeded. If there is a place for premium bullets it is when the 130 gr .270 is to be used on heavy game like moose. Therefore if I had to choose between factory .270 ammo for moose I would make a conscious effort to find ammo loaded with a premium bullet. I don't think it matters which brand you choose, or whether the bullet is a mono-metal design or a bonded core design provided your rifle is sighted in for the ammo you carry.
The 270 is all my relatives use for elk if thats any way to compare the ctg.
I'd be confident carry a 270 (if I had one) after moose. This is one of those "bullet placement" theories which I totally agree on.
Heck, I'd pack my 30-30 for moose if I had to!
I'd be confident carry a 270 (if I had one) after moose. This is one of those "bullet placement" theories which I totally agree on.
Heck, I'd pack my 30-30 for moose if I had to!
.270 factory fodder
For a factory round I would recommend, and have used fairly extensively, Federal's High Energy load topped with the 140 grain Trophy Bonded Bear Claw. I've chronographed it at around 3060 fps and it shoots well under an inch consistently and it penetrates VERY well. I haven't recovered one and I've shot deer, MOOSE, caribou, goat, walrus and muskox with it. The only downfall is the price, around $40-45 a box...
As for the .270 not being enough 'medicine' for moose, come on...
'rifle
For a factory round I would recommend, and have used fairly extensively, Federal's High Energy load topped with the 140 grain Trophy Bonded Bear Claw. I've chronographed it at around 3060 fps and it shoots well under an inch consistently and it penetrates VERY well. I haven't recovered one and I've shot deer, MOOSE
, caribou, goat, walrus and muskox with it. The only downfall is the price, around $40-45 a box...As for the .270 not being enough 'medicine' for moose, come on...
'rifle
Canadian moose are not hard to kill. Alaskan moose would be a different story. Last year this moose was shocked in the left side with a 7mm-08 154 grain bullet at over 325 yards. It did not go two steps after being hit. A .270 has more shock than a 7mm-08. I have taken moose with a .243, a 6.5 x 57, a 25-06 and 7mm-08's. Any of these through the chest with a bullet from the heavier end of the scale does the job. Varmint bullets are no good.
unstableryan
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Quick, someone tell my grandfather that all the moose and deer hunting he did over the last 45 years of his life was unethical because he was using a 30-30 or a .270 with old ass dominion brand round nose ammo.
Shooting them with arrows has to be really bad then right?
Shooting them with arrows has to be really bad then right?
I'd use a 130gr or 140gr TSX bullet or a 140-150gr Nosler Partition or Accubond, and start sharpening your knife. Only problem the .270 has killing moose is the same problem all cartridges do- If you put the bullet in the wrong place, they dont' work so good.
You have obviously never used, or seen used, a 270 on moose.
The AK-Yukon moose we have up here are considerably larger than your BC moose. I have not only taken moose myself using the 270, but know many guys who hunt them with this cartridge. The 270 Win kills moose easily, using any bullet from 130 to 160 gr.
The second largest moose I ever killed was a single shot with a 130 gr Silvertip at very long range. That bull did not move five paces after being hit.
Ted
Canadian moose are not hard to kill. Alaskan moose would be a different story. Last year this moose was shocked in the left side with a 7mm-08 154 grain bullet at over 325 yards. It did not go two steps after being hit. A .270 has more shock than a 7mm-08. I have taken moose with a .243, a 6.5 x 57, a 25-06 and 7mm-08's. Any of these through the chest with a bullet from the heavier end of the scale does the job. Varmint bullets are no good.
I hope the begiining moose hunters, and many hunters with years of experience, are taking a good look at your picture. I think it is the best illustration of butchering a moose in the bush that I have ever seen!
The moose is in great condition, shot cleanly, skinned and cooled out in the bush, hung properly, the meat should be perfect.
I just hope there is some evidence of ### left on it, which we can't see, so he gets it home without trouble.
