best all steel rifle?
- Thread starter whitetailwoodsarcher
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Find a good used Tikka T3 SS ! JMO RJ
RedRabbits
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- Holberg/Nanaimo BC
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The LE No5 is the ultimate camp/brush gun, mine is still sluggin it through the bush 67 years after it was born. Its not a tackdriver and shooting for groups will drive you mad, but it more than acceptable for shooting game. Shes feeds, fires, extracts and ejects everytime without fail and i bet would take more punishment than anything off the shelf today. I like the short OAL and detachable mag for getting in/out of the truck too.
Check out a CZ 527 in 7.62x39. Great little gun... Add $100 for a boyds laminate stock and you're set...
- Location
- West Quebec
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Thanks caramel is this similar in 223?
- Location
- West Quebec
Now your talking what glass is on it..
blasted_saber
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- Location
- A blue part of Ontario
My father in law bought one last year, so I have a little experience with them. i found the blueing nice, and the wood figure nice, however its a little rough around the edges. The wood finish could be a touch better, and the action a little sticky (however that can be remedied rather easily, or so ive read). His shot nicely, around MOA.
Trade ex has some in synthetic (no sights though) for under $500
- Location
- West Quebec
Really what parts?
Mumbles Marble Mouth
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- Location
- Lower Mainland
New Tikka T3's have plastic trigger guard, bolt shroud, and magazine. They're still good rifles. I bet almost all new rifles have something that's plastic on them just most people here are to much of a fan of certain brand of rifle to admit it. Hell, if a $1000 CZ 550 has plastic parts, then you can bet a $700 Remington 700 has something plastic on it. It doesn't, however, mean its a bad gun.
Edit .... humm.... maybe not. Just google searched if the Remington 700 has plastic parts and it makes no note of plastic parts on the 700. All it comes up with are after market replacement parts that are plastic. Saw a picture of a Remington 700 BDL and though, Damn that gun would look ###y next to me CZ 550 LUX.
Edit .... humm.... maybe not. Just google searched if the Remington 700 has plastic parts and it makes no note of plastic parts on the 700. All it comes up with are after market replacement parts that are plastic. Saw a picture of a Remington 700 BDL and though, Damn that gun would look ###y next to me CZ 550 LUX.
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That's why I'll stick with my FN Winchester M70. 100% steel and Walnut. He wanted steel and synthetic so I and many others suggested a different version of the M70 that met his criteria.
You're right about plastic parts sneaking into production rifles... Perhaps that's why the OP asked for opinions on guns with NO plastic parts.
Hence suggesting a Tikka or any rifles you mentioned above is exactly the opposite of what he was asking for.
Ardent
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Ruger.
One piece bolts, built like tanks, very smooth operation, controlled round feed, bet floorplate release in the business and tied for best safeties. No.1, M77 MkII, can't go wrong.
One piece bolts, built like tanks, very smooth operation, controlled round feed, bet floorplate release in the business and tied for best safeties. No.1, M77 MkII, can't go wrong.
Maybe it's just the ones my LGS had in stock but I looked closely at the m77mkII and each one had machine work that was less then perfect and a bolt that felt rough.
Could have been a bad batch idk... Ultimately I didn't like that way the gun felt and went another direction. YMMV.
My favorite all metal hunting rifles currently available and reasonably priced are the Ruger Hawkeye, Win M70(FN made), Zastava M70 in that order. I have all three of these rifles (half a dozen Rugers, one Featherweight, and 2 Zastavas including a ss version) and have hunted with them all except the ss Zastava which will get a good work out this fall.
The Ruger is my favorite because of the one piece bolt and an extractor collar that isn't made out of stamped tin like the Win M70's. They don't operate quite as smoothly as the Win but I don't put that much stock in smooth bolt travel. As long as it doesn't bind that's the main priority. Smooth is nice feeling but has little to do with reliability or quality of manufacture. You can have a smooth bolt travel on a bolt made out of pieces soldered or riveted together. The safety on the Ruger operates the same as the Win M70 and is my favorite design for a hunting rifle. I do like the fact that the Winchester one is mounted on the bolt but they achieve the same results.
The Winchester is a nice hunting rifle all around. I love the looks and feel of it and function is flawless. The safety is top notch. My only complaints are the extractor collar and the silly gas baffle opposite the extractor. I realize the gas baffle is there for safety and is important but surely they could have designed the action to handle the gas a bit better and did away with the sloppy baffle mounted in the extractor collar. The bolt handle is a separate piece from the body but from my understanding it is splined and pressed on which should be a pretty secure system. Failure has to be a pretty remote possibility.
The Zastava M70 is a commercial M98 that in its basic form has been around for 115 years now. Used all over the world and copied by many manufactures it is the best design of them all imho. I would chose the Zastava over the others except for the safety system. I'm not a big fan of the trigger mounted safety especially if it doesn't lock the bolt closed. The other issue is the quality of the metal finish. My older Charles Daly by Zastava is nicely made. Fit and finish on the metal is as nice as the Ruger and close to the Win. My new ss Zastava, not so good. It feeds and ejects flawlessly and that's the main thing but the workmanship is a bit crude in some areas. Eventually I may convert my Zastava to a Winchester style 3 position safety and then I'd consider it to be the ideal hunting rifle.
The Ruger is my favorite because of the one piece bolt and an extractor collar that isn't made out of stamped tin like the Win M70's. They don't operate quite as smoothly as the Win but I don't put that much stock in smooth bolt travel. As long as it doesn't bind that's the main priority. Smooth is nice feeling but has little to do with reliability or quality of manufacture. You can have a smooth bolt travel on a bolt made out of pieces soldered or riveted together. The safety on the Ruger operates the same as the Win M70 and is my favorite design for a hunting rifle. I do like the fact that the Winchester one is mounted on the bolt but they achieve the same results.
The Winchester is a nice hunting rifle all around. I love the looks and feel of it and function is flawless. The safety is top notch. My only complaints are the extractor collar and the silly gas baffle opposite the extractor. I realize the gas baffle is there for safety and is important but surely they could have designed the action to handle the gas a bit better and did away with the sloppy baffle mounted in the extractor collar. The bolt handle is a separate piece from the body but from my understanding it is splined and pressed on which should be a pretty secure system. Failure has to be a pretty remote possibility.
The Zastava M70 is a commercial M98 that in its basic form has been around for 115 years now. Used all over the world and copied by many manufactures it is the best design of them all imho. I would chose the Zastava over the others except for the safety system. I'm not a big fan of the trigger mounted safety especially if it doesn't lock the bolt closed. The other issue is the quality of the metal finish. My older Charles Daly by Zastava is nicely made. Fit and finish on the metal is as nice as the Ruger and close to the Win. My new ss Zastava, not so good. It feeds and ejects flawlessly and that's the main thing but the workmanship is a bit crude in some areas. Eventually I may convert my Zastava to a Winchester style 3 position safety and then I'd consider it to be the ideal hunting rifle.
