Best AR in .308 for $2000?

[Epoxy7]

It won't be an ATRS as they don't make one in 7.51.

So to you sir

But seriously, I'll go for a KAC complete lower if one can be found by then.

Re barrel lenght - I'd be inclined to choose one with an 18" or longer barrel.

It will be interesting to see which lower style ADCOR goes with. KAC/LMT might not work with it. That's one of the problems with the 308AR rifles. Most of them aren't interchangeable. The ability to mix/match company uppers/lowers is very limited. ADCOR needs to put the same amount of thought into their lowers as they did with their uppers. I would love a 16" SS match grade barreled 308 ADCOR upper. Would fit into my AR308 lineup pretty well.

 

[BenL]

It will be interesting to see which lower style ADCOR goes with. KAC/LMT might not work with it. That's one of the problems with the 308AR rifles. Most of them aren't interchangeable. The ability to mix/match company uppers/lowers is very limited. ADCOR needs to put the same amount of thought into their lowers as they did with their uppers. I would love a 16" SS match grade barreled 308 ADCOR upper. Would fit into my AR308 lineup pretty well.

If ADCOR can export complete firearms I would no doubt purchase it that way. I have faith that they will come up with something that'll be just as well put together as they BEAR Elite.

 

[Epoxy7]

If ADCOR can export complete firearms I would no doubt purchase it that was. I have faith that they will come up with something that'll be just as well put together as they BEAR Elite.

I sure hope so. The lowers consumers have been putting their ADCOR elite's on have actually been a lot nicer than the actual ADCOR lower. The ADCOR lower is very plain. Nothing special about the 5.56 lower. Hopefully they go full ambi for the 308 version as many of us did using other companies lowers for the 5.56 elite uppers.

That being said I too would buy the complete ADCOR rifle in 308 if it's an option.

 

[Epoxy7]

For you guys/gals looking for the all around AR10 style rifle. I came across the S&W MP10 and for the price along with what it is I would personally take a good look at it. Dump the handguard and go with a nice freefloat. S&W MP10. I actually like S&W products (A bit biased though). The barrel is a 1:10 5R (Thompson Center no doubt). It's not chrome lined but has one of those melonite coatings. 18" barrel so not bad. Could be pretty accurate. The rest looks decent. Includes ambi safety, mag release and bolt release. Not as nicely done from the looks of it as KAC but functional. This would make a nice compromise rifle. Also the price is very good.

 

[RC Fan]

For you guys/gals looking for the all around AR10 style rifle. I came across the S&W MP10 and for the price along with what it is I would personally take a good look at it. Dump the handguard and go with a nice freefloat. S&W MP10. I actually like S&W products (A bit biased though). The barrel is a 1:10 5R (Thompson Center no doubt). It's not chrome lined but has one of those melonite coatings. 18" barrel so not bad. Could be pretty accurate. The rest looks decent. Includes ambi safety, mag release and bolt release. Not as nicely done from the looks of it as KAC but functional. This would make a nice compromise rifle. Also the price is very good.

I will keep that in mind, but you pretty much have me sold on the Armalite!

 

[Farmboy]

For those looking for a .308 and not wanting to spend on a KAC, we do have a DPMS REPR in black arriving shortly for $2997

The Rapid Engagement Precision Rifle was made to suit the preferences of those that want the same concept rifle as the SASS, but lighter. The 20” Hbar Melonite treated barrel is one of the most durable, long lasting barrels you can buy, plus the lightweight rail system reduces the weight from the SASS rifle without negating accuracy.

 

[Epoxy7]

For those looking for a .308 and not wanting to spend on a KAC, we do have a DPMS REPR in black arriving shortly for $2997

Looks neat. I like that it comes with a two stage match trigger. The stock DPMS one is truly horrible. Kind of neat in FDE as well.

308Win / 7.62 NATO 9.75lbs 36.5"/40.25" 20" Hbar, Melonite treated 416 stainless 1x10 twist barrel, Extruded 7029 (upper) T6 A3 Flattop
Billet 7029 T6 (lower) Magpul PRS Two-Stage Match Lightweight 4-Rail Free Float Hogue Rubber Grip N/A Optics Ready AAC flash hider/ suppressor adapter

Obviously similar to the DPMS SASS only for the cancelled marine contract competition.

Armalite SASS: US price $2954.68 from irunguns.com

Caliber: .308/7.62 X 51mm NATO
Barrel: 20" Triple lapped, Ceramic Coated AISI 416R Stainless Steel Match, Threaded 5/8x24
Rifling Twist: RH 1:10" 150-175 Grain, Recommended 168
Muzzle Device: Flash Suppressor
Front Sight Base: Quad Picatinny Rail Handguard
Upper Receiver: Forged Flattop with Picatinny Rail & Laser Engraved Rail Numbering 7175-T74 Aluminum
Lower Receiver: 7175-t73 Aluminum (forged)
Trigger: National Match two stage - 1st stage 2.5 lbs - 2nd stage 4.5-5 lbs
Overall Length: 41 - 42"
Weight: 11.8 lbs
Accuracy: 1 MOA
Included with Rifle: One 10 Round Magazine, One 20 Round Magazine, USMC Quick Adjustable Sling, Sling Swivel Mount, Owners Manual, Limited Lifetime Warranty, Hard Case

Comparable in price and purpose.

Advantage of DPMS: ambi safety and I've read ambi mag release. Also the flash AAC flash hider is cooler. Uses Pmags.

Armalite: Adjustable gas block, 7175 forged upper and lower, I like the free float handguard a bit better on the Armalite (including the QR points on the front).

Triggers and barrels appear to be a wash. Cost is about the same as well.

 

[thump_rrr]

DPMS SASS is around $2600 when you can find one.

 

[ztunelover]

Hk mr308?

 

[BenL]

I brought up the one up in the other thread on precision AR-10 platform, so may as well do the same here - anyone has any experience with the JP Enterprise LRP-07

Receiver: Machined-from-billet 7075-T6 upper/lower receiver set with left-side charging system on upper receiver
Receiver Finish: Matte black hard coat anodizing on aluminum components
Barrel: JP Supermatch™ 416R air-gauged, button-rifled, cryogenically treated barrel
Barrel Finish: Polished stainless
Muzzle Treatment: JP Compensator
Caliber: .308 Win., .260 Rem., 6.5 Creedmoor, .338 Fed.
Buttstock: A2 or ACE ARFX
Grip: Hogue pistol grip
Hand Guard: JP Modular Hand Guard System
Gas System: JP adjustable
Operating System: JP .308 Low Mass Operating System (LMOS™)
Trigger: JP Fire Control Package available in weights of 3.5-4.5 lbs.

 

[Epoxy7]

I've never shot or seen a JP Enterprise LRP-07 in the flesh. I have read about parts from them (liked their forend handguards for target rifles). By all accounts they make an excellent target rifle. The left side charging handle is nice, although I think the ADCOR method was much slicker. Esthetically I find them fairly boxy looking. But from what I've read they shoot very well.

I'm also curious if anyone here has one and what they think.

 

[thump_rrr]

I've never shot or seen a JP Enterprise LRP-07 in the flesh. I have read about parts from them (liked their forend handguards for target rifles). By all accounts they make an excellent target rifle. The left side charging handle is nice, although I think the ADCOR method was much slicker. Esthetically I find them fairly boxy looking. But from what I've read they shoot very well.

I'm also curious if anyone here has one and what they think.

I've shot a couple of them in 5.56 and have seen many since CRAFM is the Canadian distributor.
They are very accurate and well put together guns.
They shoot quite effortlessly with low recoil and shoot very flat.
(Now comes the however)
However these are what I consider race guns.
They have tight tolerances and are designed for shooting "games".
I would not be taking one out on deployment to the sandbox because it may be tight enough to get jammed up with sand.
Firearms built to military specifications have tolerances loose enough so that they can function reliably in all types of environments but at the same time they won't be winning any precision competitions.

I wouldn't hesitate to purchase a JP for shooting from a bench but if you like the Mil Spec look, look elsewhere.

 

[cr5]

The more I research the more I think LMT is the brand to go with.
If I had the free cash I'd own one.

 

[ntm]

I brought up the one up in the other thread on precision AR-10 platform, so may as well do the same here - anyone has any experience with the JP Enterprise LRP-07

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Played with one that a local guy owns.
Very accurate, on par with the mws ss barrels, gap 10 builds, etc.
More accurate than any of the sr25's I've seen, but like was mentioned, it's got a race gun feel to it.
I'd buy one in a heartbeat if I could find one.
I'd run this or an sr25 for three gun fun, for target shooting the mws or a rebarreled dpms are going to be the bang for the buck winners.
To go where I'm being shot at, the sr25 or mws would be my pick. The mws is a heavy beast though...

I've got 16" 18" and 20" barrels for my mws, you don't need anything more than a 16" for .308.
The differences in velocity, and consequently drops and wind drift, are negligible. If you can make a wind call with a 20" barrel, you can make a wind call with the 16 ". The 16" makes the rifle much more maneuverable and versatile.

Bottom line, under $2000, buy the cheapest dpms you can find (the r25 can usually be had cheap), and rebarrel it. If you've got money left over, get a geissele national match trigger.
90% of the dpms "sass" that are around here still need to be rebarreled for better accuracy, you gain nothing by spending more money with them.

 

[BenL]

I've shot a couple of them in 5.56 and have seen many since CRAFM is the Canadian distributor.
They are very accurate and well put together guns.
They shoot quite effortlessly with low recoil and shoot very flat.
(Now comes the however)
However these are what I consider race guns.
They have tight tolerances and are designed for shooting "games".
I would not be taking one out on deployment to the sandbox because it may be tight enough to get jammed up with sand.
Firearms built to military specifications have tolerances loose enough so that they can function reliably in all types of environments but at the same time they won't be winning any precision competitions.

I wouldn't hesitate to purchase a JP for shooting from a bench but if you like the Mil Spec look, look elsewhere.

That has been my understanding of them. I've never shot one (be it their AR-10 or 15 models), but as a range-only gun, I could certainly let the right tolerances slide as I have other ARs that can perform (albiet perhaps not at the same level) quite well in less than desireable environment.

 

[Epoxy7]

Figured I'd update this thread. Right now with the Questar sale at 20% off the LMT MWS(E) is the best under 3K option. The only disadvantage is the CL barrel. Otherwise for less than the DPMS REPR and the Armalite SASS it's an easy choice.

LMT MWS with 16" CL barrel. $3300 - 20% = 2640.

Pick up an 18" or 20" SS barrel later. Or check to see what they have now if you're willing to make the leap while the sale is on. I know it's not the best timing for most to make s big purchase but worth considering.

http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php/1009083-Colossal-Christmas-Sale-continues-Sunday-w-20-OFF-everything-in-stock!!!