Best balance of recoil and terminal performance in a cartridge.

"Most 30-06s that I have shot have had significant recoil for the ballistics available out the muzzle"


I have 2 30.06's, a A-Bolt Medalion, and a X-Bolt Stainless Stalker, and I don't find they have much recoil at all,....my 358win BLR with my handloads?,...now she kicks,..but I love 'er. The stainless X-bolt only weighs a little over 7 pounds scope and all, and I find it very pleasant to shoot. Further more, the 30.06 will kill much farther than most people have any business shooting at an animal to begin with. Like I said in an earlier post, the 7mm RM is a great round and would be my second choice, but I am not a fan of magnum calibers, they seem to be way to destructive up close. I have shot 7mm RM and IMO they have a little more recoil than my 06's
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One must be ÜBER carefull using pixie dust in the 6.5x55. Too much and you will exceed 264 Win Mag velocity and run the risk of the bullet punching thru animal so fast that it will "cauterize" (still LMFAO at that one) the wound and allow the critter to escape. Laugh2 Laugh2
 
Man, I gotta find out where I can secure a supply of pixie dust....my 7-08 should be able to push 162 A-Max's at around 3100 ft/sec....NO?? :)
 
hoytcanon said:
A fair question... this past fall I was displeased with my 7X57 results based on reports that I read on what others were achieving with the cartridge... I subsequently began investigating loads developed by other 7X57 fans... my load development led me to RL19 and the 150-154 weight bullets... between this and disregarding current book data for the 7X57 (lawyerized severely) and paying close attention to pressure signs, I was finally able to capitalize on the case capacity of the 7X57 and see the, all be it marginal, advantage over my 7mm-08's... if you asked me a year ago, I would say based on my experience they are neck and neck... today, I am saying that the 7X57 does have the advantage the case capacity suggests that it should. I am always working and tweaking... my opinion will be adjusted on an ongoing basis based on the actual results that I am seeing... much of my winter months are spent going over notes and data that I compiled over the previous summer and fall... so asking me for clarification now, I would choose the 7X57 over the 7-08 in some platforms... such as the Ruger No.1... however, I do like compact rifles and so, also choose the 7-08 in those... it's give and take... depends on the context... for this thread, based on the question asked, the answer for me is 7X57... if the OP had added "in a compact rifle," I would have said 7-08, and with equal conviction.
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^^^ This x 2. I have been using a Ruger #1A 7x57 - 150 grain Partition with RL-19 @ 2,800 fps for 15 years. Perfect for Saskatchewan whitetail and mule deer. So far as I am concerned a "compact" rifle is the Ruger #1 RSI in 30-06 that recently came home. Have and have used a Model 70 Winchester in 338 Win Mag for elk; have a 9.3x62 Husqvarna 640 for next trip to "big bush". As reference, my son, at 14 (5' 10" 140 lbs) was able to comfortably fire offhand my 338 Win Mag 225 Partition @ 2,800 fps - recoil management is all about a well designed stock, proper fit to shooter, proper coaching in shooting technique.
 
Potashminer said:
^^^ This x 2. I have been using a Ruger #1A 7x57 - 150 grain Partition with RL-19 @ 2,800 fps... So far as I am concerned a "compact" rifle is the Ruger #1 RSI in 30-06 that recently came home.
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Ironically, I just landed a No.1-RSI in .30/06 to ride along with my RSI's in 7X57 and .243... I'm pushing the powers that be to do a run of RSI'S in .45/70...
 
For what I hunt and use my rifles for, the 260 Rem answers the original question. 260 is light recoiling, has plenty of take down power for deer (mainly what I hunt), quite capable of taking moose. Although I have several other cartridges more suited for moose, but quite often take the 260 as a back up.
It can be loaded with lighter bullets for varmint hunting as well.
 
Tikkam65 said:
yes Ted you are correct that all rifles drift
but with a 10 mph cross wind a 210 -300 win mag is running as much as 2 -3 moa
and you must recognize that the little 264 hold around 1/2 to 1 minute
not to mention consitancy when bucking the wind down at a 1000
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Sorry,friend, but you are very wrong on this. You are not even close. I am keen on hearing how you came to such an amazing conclusion?

It certainly wasn't by shooting at 1000 yd. Again, let me ask,.....
Why not? said:
Have you ever tried shooting targets at long range in a 10 mph wind? That's just a gentle breeze on the side of your face. It's enlightening, to say the least.

Ted
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Ted
 
Why not? said:
Sorry,friend, but you are very wrong on this. You are not even close. I am keen on hearing how you came to such an amazing conclusion?

It certainly wasn't by shooting at 1000 yd. Again, let me ask,..... Ted
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You are not refuting ballistics on this one, Ted... you are refuting personality.
 
snoopycda said:
7mm Remington Magnum, or have you heard:
Better, cheaper, flattest, most power, ease of handload, bullet selection, range of powder, less obnoxious, ###ier, price range, rifle availability. range, blondes, brunettes, or redheads, potatoes or potAtoes.
Only gun nutz would have twelve pages of this.
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cobra, python, magnum f:P: reminds me of a fella at the work place in the past, he was fascinated with anything that had these words attached to it! :p. No offence, just say'n:)
 
two-dogs said:
cobra, python, magnum f:P: reminds me of a fella at the work place in the past, he was fascinated with anything that had these words attached to it! :p. No offence, just say'n:)
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Magnum isn't even an eight cylinder word among gunnutz that know their stuff. So lets call it the 7x64x13.5 Belted (case head size)
Thats a lot of information in the name. Technical names take all the romance out of it however.
Title asked whats the best balance of recoil and terminal performance. Here in north america, in my opinion it is the 7mm Remington Magnum.
I have the latest Cartridges of the World, 1500 ways of doing the same thing, it is interesting to read though. Sits on the back of the toilet, commode, porcelain, whatever you want to call it.
 
The .257 Roberts is a medium powered .25 caliber cartridge. It has been described as the best compromise between the low recoil and flat trajectory of smaller calibers such as the .22 and 6mm, and the strong energy but not the strong recoil of larger popular hunting calibers, such as the 7mm family and the popular .30-06.
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From Wiki, so it MUST be true! ........ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.257_Roberts
 
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