Best Bedside Defense Shotgun

Store the non-restricted shotgun unloaded but not trigger locked in a gun safe or locked case along with the ammo. Legal, safe, and ammo available pretty quickly. I can't think of another legal way to keep a shotgun as ready as possible. I suppose ammo mounted in a sidesaddle on the gun in a locked safe or case could also technically be fine as the gun is still unloaded.

This is what I gather from reading the RCMP sheet on safe storage.
 
The answer is simple.

Become extremely proficient with a reliable short barrel tube fed 12 gauge.

Don't rely solely on the gun though. Acquire speed and effectiveness through dedicated practice.

Make loading an empty tube quickly as much of a priority as accurately firing the gun.
 
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Shotguns are one of the best HD guns IMHO... but..........

consider your environment and home when choosing your load. Slugs and buckshot while easily dispatching bad guys at 3 am in the morning also have massive potential to penetrate drywall and harm the very ones you want to protect.

Bird shot on the other hand seldom penetrates drywall but is fairly effective in close quarter combat

As for storing your shotgun... loaded is not good or legal however having rounds in your sidesaddle is. Speed locks on cabinets such as those made by Master are fast as are biometric safes.
 
If I lived in the UNITED STATES, or some other country or place that had the reasonable and logical doctrine of "castle law", I would opt for the double barrel by the bedside with a high lumen output light mounted on it.

Since I live in this country with its wacked out case laws and ever-present persecution of the victims of crime, my canine friends are the home defenders. They don't like intruders and have spoiled some plans before.
 
Stereo Joe said:
Store the non-restricted shotgun unloaded but not trigger locked in a gun safe or locked case along with the ammo. Legal, safe, and ammo available pretty quickly. I can't think of another legal way to keep a shotgun as ready as possible. I suppose ammo mounted in a sidesaddle on the gun in a locked safe or case could also technically be fine as the gun is still unloaded.

This is what I gather from reading the RCMP sheet on safe storage.
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In the bed seems available quick :D Maybe the sheets count as a soft case?
 
If you think you need to defend yourself by having an easily accessible shotgun in your bedroom, perhaps it's time to move to a new neighborhood? You'll feel safer and it'll cost you less in the long run. Constantly worrying about the what "if's" will drive you batsheet crazy.
 
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There's a reason the pump gun has been the quintessential defense gun throughout history.

If you have to ask, you probably haven't spent enough time behind a shotgun to make a determination for yourself.

I would suggest taking a good defensive shotgun course (not a 3 gun/gaming style course) and after you will be able to decide what best fits YOUR needs.
 
EL34/6L6 said:
The answer is simple.

Become extremely proficient with a reliable short barrel tube fed 12 gauge.

Don't rely solely on the gun though. Acquire speed and effectiveness through dedicated practice.

Make loading an empty tube quickly as much of a priority as accurately firing the gun.
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Hypothetically...this.

I don't own the Fabarm but the 12.5 (?? think they make one there is a listing on the EE) looks great and likely better quality than the knock-offs, though IME pumps are simple machines and while I like one over the other, can't say they are "unreliable".

Also a crazy powerful light..they are debilitating to an intruder, especially considering the darkness that is likely present..hypothetically, there are far less reprecussions for pointing a light at a guy and kicking him in the sack 4 times then blasting him with a scary looking black shotgun.

And worth mentioning..whether one agrees with armed defense or not...the suggestion that one can solve all their security needs by "moving to a better neighbourhood" is out to lunch. This ridiculous notion that only poor people are victims, crime is restricted to certain postal codes, the victim had it coming by being there, everyone can afford to suddenly move to a gated community, etc. is tiresome and ignorant. No one is more or less entitled to security based on their address. I have lived and worked in an area code much wealthier than average in Ontario for over 40 years, and have been a victim of and a witness to, or at least aware of all kinds of crimes of violence and property, including murders and assaults and home invasions. Not one of those victims was "asking for it".
 
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2bad4u2 said:
If you think you need to defend yourself by having an easily accessible shotgun in your bedroom, perhaps it's time to move to a new neighborhood? You'll feel safer and it'll cost you less in the long run. Constantly worrying about the what "if's" will drive you batsheet crazy.
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:agree: op is really over thinking "safety".
 
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And worth mentioning..whether one agrees with armed defense or not...the suggestion that one can solve all their security needs by "moving to a better neighbourhood" is out to lunch. This ridiculous notion that only poor people are victims, crime is restricted to certain postal codes, the victim had it coming by being there, everyone can afford to suddenly move to a gated community, etc. is tiresome and ignorant. No one is more or less entitled to security based on their address. I have lived and worked in an area code much wealthier than average in Ontario for over 40 years, and have been a victim of and a witness to, or at least aware of all kinds of crimes of violence and property, including murders and assaults and home invasions. Not one of those victims was "asking for it".
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And you would be completely out to lunch and ignorant to willingly live in an area where you felt your personal safety was jeopardized. This has nothing to do with income level or affluence in society. Even the nicest of areas can have crime issues. You can never eliminate the chance of becoming a victim to 0% but you can certainly put the odds in your favour.

Not once did I mention moving to a gated community nor did I say anything about someone "asking for it" because they lived in a high crime area. Don't attribute comments to me that I did not make.

If you think moving to a new home with a higher standard of living is expensive, imagine the additional expense in the $10,000's to defend one's self against possible criminal charges or civil litigation. I'm not sure how you can put a price tag on the security of yourself and your family.

If common sense alludes you, then you are clearly to blame.
 
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2bad4u2 said:
And you would be completely out to lunch and ignorant to willingly live in an area where you felt your personal safety was jeopardized. This has nothing to do with income level or affluence in society. Even the nicest of areas can have crime issues.
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Huh? So why suggest he move? Since it can happen anywhere why not just be prepared in whatever manner makes you comfortable. In my so called nice area of Toronto, we had 3 years of some couple breaking in, stealing and ###ually assaulting people in our community. Should we all have left?

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If you think you need to defend yourself by having an easily accessible shotgun in your bedroom, perhaps it's time to move to a new neighborhood? You'll feel safer and it'll cost you less in the long run. Constantly worrying about the what "if's" will drive you batsheet crazy.
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Or, looking at it another way, take measures to prepare yourself if you feel you need to and stay in the home you and your family are accustomed to. I didn't stay up at night worrying about "what ifs" while this was going on around us.
 
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300Spartans said:
If I lived in the UNITED STATES, or some other country or place that had the reasonable and logical doctrine of "castle law", I would opt for the double barrel by the bedside with a high lumen output light mounted on it.

Since I live in this country with its wacked out case laws and ever-present persecution of the victims of crime, my canine friends are the home defenders. They don't like intruders and have spoiled some plans before.
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Great minds think alike.

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There seems to be alot of misinformation in this thread regarding defending your home against home invasions . It is best to google this issue as there have been many cases in Canada where Canadian Citizens have legally used armed force to protect themselves and their families within their homes . As far as the best type of shotgun , any of the brand name pump shotguns with an 18.5 inch barrel will do fine....get some double 00 buck , lock your doors at night , and you are good to go.....If you live in a really high crime area , invest in a home alarm......
 
2bad4u2 said:
And you would be completely out to lunch and ignorant to willingly live in an area where you felt your personal safety was jeopardize[/I]d. This has nothing to do with income level or affluence in society. Even the nicest of areas can have crime issues. You can never eliminate the chance of becoming a victim to 0% but you can certainly put the odds in your favour.

Not once did I mention moving to a gated community nor did I say anything about someone "asking for it" because they lived in a high crime area. Don't attribute comments to me that I did not make.

If you think moving to a new home with a higher standard of living is expensive, imagine the additional expense in the $10,000's to defend one's self against possible criminal charges or civil litigation. I'm not sure how you can put a price tag on the security of yourself and your family.

If common sense alludes you, then you are clearly to blame.
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You are speaking as if everyone has choices. That they "choose" to live in a high crime area..and it has nothing to do with income? It would be wonderful to move to a low crime area (gated community implied) to save oneself the 10's of 1000s' you refer to.. great decision. Too bad the lack of income is why they are there in the first place.

So again..you insinuate that people living in high crime areas lack common sense..hence they are to blame..hence you are suggesting they were asking for it by not making the common sense move, shaking the money tree and moving next door to you.

Its not common sense that alludes them..its the resources to move.

For some reason Im reminded of the quote attributed to Marie Antoinette..if the people can't afford bread..then why don't they eat cake?
 
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