Do not take all old soldier's tales as gospel. How do I know this? I'm an old soldier.
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Do not take all old soldier's tales as gospel. How do I know this? I'm an old soldier.
I simply don't need to BS you or lie to you because if you believe me or if you wouldn't-I wouldn't neither acquire anything nor loose anything-except if you simply trust me and do everything like I advise,then you will possibly avoid some disappointment or injury in future and maybe that will count somehow..And yes,just couple of pictures of my both rifles,exactly when they were only excavated and also after applied repairs.https://ibb.co/album/e6F5Aa Unfortunately I can't send any of the later images because all of them were on the memory card which I lost after I moved to Toronto and that is why there is no scope on Mosin,also why it's surface isn't smooth after welding all pittings on it in order to fit the law requirements of that time in Russia and to register it.But as you see it is sniper modification-it can be determined by looking at it's extractor slot which is made in slightly different way than on usual common Mosin barrels.And the barrel is quite more narrow at the muzzle end than a common one-so you can be pretty sure that it was special sniper modification of Mosin.If you somehow can't open that site or those images or have some questions about my articles and photos-just email me to john.sheppard888@gmail.com and I gonna answer as soon as I receive your message.
And yes,I will appreciate if you will answer any suggestions about my little question:what should I do to order and import guns and parts from USA through the US-Canada border-seems like on gunbroker all lots are without international shipping available..I want to purchase the G41(W) or G41(M)extremely rare and almost impossible to find and obtain WW2 semi-auto rifles which are available for ridiculous amounts on gunbroker but all of them are situated in USA only and every fu**ing lot is marked with "no international shipping",so how to make those ######s deliver me that through the f***ing border?
And yes,I will appreciate if you will answer any suggestions about my little question:what should I do to order and import guns and parts from USA through the US-Canada border-seems like on gunbroker all lots are without international shipping available..I want to purchase the G41(W) or G41(M)extremely rare and almost impossible to find and obtain WW2 semi-auto rifles which are available for ridiculous amounts on gunbroker but all of them are situated in USA only and every fu**ing lot is marked with "no international shipping",so how to make those ######s deliver me that through the f***ing border?
Umm... Wow. What a hard post to read. Try adding spaces between your paragraphs.
Sniper mosins are not machined at the extractor groove differently and don't have a different profile barrel.
If the mount is missing the only was to I'd one would be it's markings and location of the mounting holes.
And I would not shoot any of the guns in those photos. Seems illl advised.
Sniper mosins are not machined at the extractor groove differently and don't have a different profile barrel.
If the mount is missing the only was to I'd one would be it's markings and location of the mounting holes.
And I would not shoot any of the guns in those photos. Seems illl advised.
This X10.
And I'll add 2 things.
1. I shoot several guns that have a pitted exterior of the barrel so I'm not the guy who sees some rust and runs away screaming. Those guns pictured are a great way to injure ones self. I mean WOW I've never seen anyone shoot a relic. They are neat but man that scares me.
2. I'm right now comparing several Mosins to my legit PU sniper and a there is no difference in the extractor groove etc. Only difference is its trigger pull is somewhat different and the scope mount on it.
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First of all I can tell that in general all the Mosins which don't match or force matched can be anything.If the barrel doesn't match the receiver it means that you can not be sure that if the sniper receiver comes with sniper barrel and opposite.In my case the receiver was without holes but almost all of the parts were mismatched so the barrel appears to be 1943 Izhevsk and the receiver was 1941 Izhevsk.The funny thing is that the bolt handle appeared to be bent back so it was initially the bent sniper handle which later was heated and bent back for some idiotic reason..
A secondly I assure you that the real sniper barrels were always machined on different benches and were totally different in terms of accuracy where they were unbelievably good because they were made in extremely precisionous way and finished with many more stages than the regular ones.And also their exterior was slightly different so they really didn't fit Mosin bayonets at all because they were too thin at the muzzle end.But the disadvantage of that scheme was that every sniper Mosin has a stronger kick but sniper actually doesn't care..And the extractor groove was also unlike on any other modification because sniper Mosins had all their parts very close to each other and almost without lufts.
As number three I remember that in fact there were much more scopes and mounts made then the rifles themselves in order to send them to the frontlines and so to increase their effectiveness and also for this reason when Kochetov invented his scope mount for PU-Mosins,all the receivers since then were made with higher edge so that all their receivers were transformable to accept the mount of PU scope's rings if the holes will be drilled.And because of that facts as far as I know there were only 200 to 250 thousands of factory-sniper Mosins made during WW2 and the number of professional soviet snipers which were trained during WW2 was 350 thousands and also more than a million(!!!) Mosins were returned with the scope mounts after the end of the war,and unbelievably but many of them not only had the hand-drilled holes in the receiver but also many of them had the hand-made scopes either!And the quality of the scopes themselves was very high sometimes..Remarkable that they were made sometimes in trenches with factory standard quality!
You may disagree with me but when I met an old guy who was unbelievably qualified self-educated gunsmith and he shown us how he made the Mosin's bolt head in little more than in one hour from the cuted rebar piece with only using a buzzsaw,a drill and a pack of various rasps with which he finished it and we figured out by measuring it with micrometres and all other high precision measuring tools that he mistaken couple of edges only for less than 5 microns WITHOUT MEASURING ANYTHING!He only had another sample before him and in one hour+change he made such an incredible copy!And yes,after that I gave him my receiver which was on that moment already refinished after welding all pittings on it's exterior and he again surprised me like hell because he didn't use any special tools to make the holes with internal screwings just with rasps and also when we screwed down the mount rail for PU scope's rings and checked the accuracy of those holes and so,the scope aiming line with help of laser-round it appeared to be perfect.So don't forget that fact that vast majority of PU-Mosins in fact are made from common ones-and that is not the same!
And what I can tell you about dangerous guns-it is not so much possible because of the fact that one third of the barrel's thickness is only in reserve even on sniper modification thin barrels and so those guns on photos are not dangerous to shoot also because after cleaning their barrels were perfect inside(well,Mauser was a bit crippled only 10 centimetres and closer to the muzzle end but both had completely intact chambers)so I assure you that it is not dangerous to shoot those relics-I shot Mauser which is shown on these photos 8600-8700 times although I didn't do anything with it and left like it was on the latest it's photos among those which you seen ,besides among all the other stuff which I repaired these were the best inside and also not the worst in exterior..And yes,we had enough cases of exploded barrels and other "pleasant" incidents like flying bolts and other stuff like casing explosions,so first of all we became immune to that crap and to be honest the stuff like on photos,but worse we were either shooting with wearing serious protection or even tied them to the tree and firing it with help of a stick from behind the tree itself and so covered by it.So most of times we were safe))
In fact there were several cases which were far more dangerous than exploding rifles in someone's hands,and some even had consequences,but fortunately not lethal..First case that I remember was just because one guy decided to check the chamber of a freshly excavated Mosin in an idiotic way so before opening the bolt(which is a nightmare even in our practice-we all hate most of all unscrewing the barrel from the receiver or extension nut and opening the bolt as well)and so he simply removed the magazine assembly and the sear and started hitting the cocking piece with a hammer-and suddenly it moved and stroke the capsule and surprisingly that faking round went off-we never before had even a single live primer on 7,62×54R because of it's construction specs(strange but 95%of 7,92×57 are intact and so we never replaced their primers while reloading-we knew the tips how to exactly identity that it is good or not,so only 5% were replaced)
and on opposite,after test loading more than half thousand 7,62×54 with shiny almost intact exteriors,which didn't work even just a single of them!But in that case it worked-and luckily the bore was already cleaned,so it didn't explode and the bullet came out as it should...And hit exactly the guy's laptop totally destroying it and making
a hole in the wall so I had to grab the fire extinguisher to stop the beginning fire in the guy's house because the goddemn round was armour piercing-incendiary,as I was after that always kidding him-"the best solution if you want to shoot your Mosin at home-definetely API loads only and only in random directions"������
Also there was the case with my other friend which decided to replace two pins in the handle of his almost intact MG34 with the pins cuted from nails and the sear was also holding by such crep and thanks to that when he fired another round he discovered that the gun runs full auto(In Russia it is possible to have any firearm converted into a semi-auto in any way just by removing parts-so in fact if you remove the auto-fire trigger section of MG34 it is already semi-auto and you are even able to go hunting with it and just have this auto-trigger detail in your pocket-god bless those who made that law)and the guy is unable to stop it-so he hold it's handle until for some reason the flashes started coming from the middle of the gun together with squashed hulls so he cried:"hit the ####ing ground!",ran in the opposite direction and jumped into a garbage pit and so we just stood with another guy like goalkeepers and watched the rebelled machinegun to avoid it pointing at our directions and ripping us apart in such way,but luckily the recoil of MG34 is not so serious in compare with it's weight so it was only enough to change the muzzle direction much less than we supposed it would..But most of the burst of 350 rounds(7 belts united in one,50 rounds each)went in the guy's small barn, almost destroyed it and I again had to grab the fire extinguisher to fight the fire beginning in the remainings of the barn thanks to miscellaneous rounds at the belt some of them were tracers,incendiary and APIs with APTs as well..And as I figured out there was in conclusion one casualty of this mess-poor cat was detected smashed all across the wall��... But the guy didn't face any consequences(except destroyed barn,killed cat and several broken parts in his MG)because thank God his house was situated in the area where we were the only three dudes who were there at that moment because the village is almost empty at winters especially on Monday and also of course that burst went in the nearby forest and didn't damage anything else but the barn..And the remarkable thing is that when that MG cooled down after it's rebellion-we discovered that it stopped firing because it jammed..With only 6 rounds left������In aftermath the guy replaced all the damaged parts and made the gun construction enhancements which allowed it to shoot from the closed bolt only and the sear with it's pin were ordered in such a tough material that seems like they are everlasting in compare with any other parts of this gun..
A secondly I assure you that the real sniper barrels were always machined on different benches and were totally different in terms of accuracy where they were unbelievably good because they were made in extremely precisionous way and finished with many more stages than the regular ones.And also their exterior was slightly different so they really didn't fit Mosin bayonets at all because they were too thin at the muzzle end.But the disadvantage of that scheme was that every sniper Mosin has a stronger kick but sniper actually doesn't care..And the extractor groove was also unlike on any other modification because sniper Mosins had all their parts very close to each other and almost without lufts.
As number three I remember that in fact there were much more scopes and mounts made then the rifles themselves in order to send them to the frontlines and so to increase their effectiveness and also for this reason when Kochetov invented his scope mount for PU-Mosins,all the receivers since then were made with higher edge so that all their receivers were transformable to accept the mount of PU scope's rings if the holes will be drilled.And because of that facts as far as I know there were only 200 to 250 thousands of factory-sniper Mosins made during WW2 and the number of professional soviet snipers which were trained during WW2 was 350 thousands and also more than a million(!!!) Mosins were returned with the scope mounts after the end of the war,and unbelievably but many of them not only had the hand-drilled holes in the receiver but also many of them had the hand-made scopes either!And the quality of the scopes themselves was very high sometimes..Remarkable that they were made sometimes in trenches with factory standard quality!
You may disagree with me but when I met an old guy who was unbelievably qualified self-educated gunsmith and he shown us how he made the Mosin's bolt head in little more than in one hour from the cuted rebar piece with only using a buzzsaw,a drill and a pack of various rasps with which he finished it and we figured out by measuring it with micrometres and all other high precision measuring tools that he mistaken couple of edges only for less than 5 microns WITHOUT MEASURING ANYTHING!He only had another sample before him and in one hour+change he made such an incredible copy!And yes,after that I gave him my receiver which was on that moment already refinished after welding all pittings on it's exterior and he again surprised me like hell because he didn't use any special tools to make the holes with internal screwings just with rasps and also when we screwed down the mount rail for PU scope's rings and checked the accuracy of those holes and so,the scope aiming line with help of laser-round it appeared to be perfect.So don't forget that fact that vast majority of PU-Mosins in fact are made from common ones-and that is not the same!
And what I can tell you about dangerous guns-it is not so much possible because of the fact that one third of the barrel's thickness is only in reserve even on sniper modification thin barrels and so those guns on photos are not dangerous to shoot also because after cleaning their barrels were perfect inside(well,Mauser was a bit crippled only 10 centimetres and closer to the muzzle end but both had completely intact chambers)so I assure you that it is not dangerous to shoot those relics-I shot Mauser which is shown on these photos 8600-8700 times although I didn't do anything with it and left like it was on the latest it's photos among those which you seen ,besides among all the other stuff which I repaired these were the best inside and also not the worst in exterior..And yes,we had enough cases of exploded barrels and other "pleasant" incidents like flying bolts and other stuff like casing explosions,so first of all we became immune to that crap and to be honest the stuff like on photos,but worse we were either shooting with wearing serious protection or even tied them to the tree and firing it with help of a stick from behind the tree itself and so covered by it.So most of times we were safe))
In fact there were several cases which were far more dangerous than exploding rifles in someone's hands,and some even had consequences,but fortunately not lethal..First case that I remember was just because one guy decided to check the chamber of a freshly excavated Mosin in an idiotic way so before opening the bolt(which is a nightmare even in our practice-we all hate most of all unscrewing the barrel from the receiver or extension nut and opening the bolt as well)and so he simply removed the magazine assembly and the sear and started hitting the cocking piece with a hammer-and suddenly it moved and stroke the capsule and surprisingly that faking round went off-we never before had even a single live primer on 7,62×54R because of it's construction specs(strange but 95%of 7,92×57 are intact and so we never replaced their primers while reloading-we knew the tips how to exactly identity that it is good or not,so only 5% were replaced)
and on opposite,after test loading more than half thousand 7,62×54 with shiny almost intact exteriors,which didn't work even just a single of them!But in that case it worked-and luckily the bore was already cleaned,so it didn't explode and the bullet came out as it should...And hit exactly the guy's laptop totally destroying it and making
a hole in the wall so I had to grab the fire extinguisher to stop the beginning fire in the guy's house because the goddemn round was armour piercing-incendiary,as I was after that always kidding him-"the best solution if you want to shoot your Mosin at home-definetely API loads only and only in random directions"������
Also there was the case with my other friend which decided to replace two pins in the handle of his almost intact MG34 with the pins cuted from nails and the sear was also holding by such crep and thanks to that when he fired another round he discovered that the gun runs full auto(In Russia it is possible to have any firearm converted into a semi-auto in any way just by removing parts-so in fact if you remove the auto-fire trigger section of MG34 it is already semi-auto and you are even able to go hunting with it and just have this auto-trigger detail in your pocket-god bless those who made that law)and the guy is unable to stop it-so he hold it's handle until for some reason the flashes started coming from the middle of the gun together with squashed hulls so he cried:"hit the ####ing ground!",ran in the opposite direction and jumped into a garbage pit and so we just stood with another guy like goalkeepers and watched the rebelled machinegun to avoid it pointing at our directions and ripping us apart in such way,but luckily the recoil of MG34 is not so serious in compare with it's weight so it was only enough to change the muzzle direction much less than we supposed it would..But most of the burst of 350 rounds(7 belts united in one,50 rounds each)went in the guy's small barn, almost destroyed it and I again had to grab the fire extinguisher to fight the fire beginning in the remainings of the barn thanks to miscellaneous rounds at the belt some of them were tracers,incendiary and APIs with APTs as well..And as I figured out there was in conclusion one casualty of this mess-poor cat was detected smashed all across the wall��... But the guy didn't face any consequences(except destroyed barn,killed cat and several broken parts in his MG)because thank God his house was situated in the area where we were the only three dudes who were there at that moment because the village is almost empty at winters especially on Monday and also of course that burst went in the nearby forest and didn't damage anything else but the barn..And the remarkable thing is that when that MG cooled down after it's rebellion-we discovered that it stopped firing because it jammed..With only 6 rounds left������In aftermath the guy replaced all the damaged parts and made the gun construction enhancements which allowed it to shoot from the closed bolt only and the sear with it's pin were ordered in such a tough material that seems like they are everlasting in compare with any other parts of this gun..
Holy cow I seem to be Pushkin or something like that ������
And also the remarkable story which I wasn't witnessing but was told after that and seen the consequences..One my friend's buddy got drunk and thought that he's Rambo or maybe a Terminator..And applied a muzzle mortar to his Mosin and loaded a mortar with the rifle grenade from the crate which he excavated earlier-and it is probably some interesting stuff to do if you can and if you're obviously safe in terms of sneak and safe shot deep in the forest with the blank round and with some safety techniques of course..The thing is that dude violated all possible rules and regulations thanks to alcohol and fired the projectile..From inside his own home through the opened window,but it was near ok in compare to the fact that this guy forgot to load the gun with propellent blank round and loaded the usual!!Luckily he stayed alive after that only because these grenades are designed in such a way that when they hit the target and detonates-most of the damage it makes in front of it and less on the sides,but almost nothing of it's blast power goes backwards because in theory it has to damage the opponent in front of it's hit and also if it hits a trench wall-it should kill everybody at it's sides but anyway it should be least possibly dangerous in backwards direction to allow the minimal distance of possible safe fire in case of CQ..Anyways the guy got into a hospital and was almost jailed and in result he was sentenced to 3 years of probation period and confiscation of all his firearms as well as his gun and driver's licenses without right of acquiring those licences for next 5 years..But in fact such a dude should never have the licence at all!
And also the remarkable story which I wasn't witnessing but was told after that and seen the consequences..One my friend's buddy got drunk and thought that he's Rambo or maybe a Terminator..And applied a muzzle mortar to his Mosin and loaded a mortar with the rifle grenade from the crate which he excavated earlier-and it is probably some interesting stuff to do if you can and if you're obviously safe in terms of sneak and safe shot deep in the forest with the blank round and with some safety techniques of course..The thing is that dude violated all possible rules and regulations thanks to alcohol and fired the projectile..From inside his own home through the opened window,but it was near ok in compare to the fact that this guy forgot to load the gun with propellent blank round and loaded the usual!!Luckily he stayed alive after that only because these grenades are designed in such a way that when they hit the target and detonates-most of the damage it makes in front of it and less on the sides,but almost nothing of it's blast power goes backwards because in theory it has to damage the opponent in front of it's hit and also if it hits a trench wall-it should kill everybody at it's sides but anyway it should be least possibly dangerous in backwards direction to allow the minimal distance of possible safe fire in case of CQ..Anyways the guy got into a hospital and was almost jailed and in result he was sentenced to 3 years of probation period and confiscation of all his firearms as well as his gun and driver's licenses without right of acquiring those licences for next 5 years..But in fact such a dude should never have the licence at all!
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And on that testimony I’m going to declare that rusted Mosin snipers with extra heavy barrels and special extractors, with trench manufactured optics, firing incendiary AP rounds and mortars that were buried for decades are hands down the best bolt action milsurps ever.
Cuz, really, let’s see your Enfield or Ross do that.
Cuz, really, let’s see your Enfield or Ross do that.
My vote goes to the Swedish Mauser. As far as I know, it's the most accurate Milsurp out there. They have smooth actions, and are my favourite Mauser. The 6.5x55 is an incredible round, a little pricey, but a godsend if you're a reloader.
Just do you research on them before you buy one, know what to look for. Get the M38 if you want a shorter one, go for the 96s if you don't mind the length. (hehe)
I have an M38 it's beautiful. Awesome shooter too.
Just do you research on them before you buy one, know what to look for. Get the M38 if you want a shorter one, go for the 96s if you don't mind the length. (hehe)
I have an M38 it's beautiful. Awesome shooter too.
That was something.
Making a bolt head from rebar is something I've never thought of. Soft metal holding in 50000 psi of pressure is not for my face.
To each their own though.
Quite a wall of text that you post, knock off the Red Bulls and eat something.
PinkyPlinker
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Take it easy on the guy. That’s a lot of typing when you’ve only got a couple fingers left.
Hmm,the thing is that half of the text I just wrote while eating ��
And about other stuff-I can assure you that not only Mosins shoot in such conditions-just as you probably see that Mauser on my photos is damaged more significantly so as I said I always thought that it will go off during next few rounds..Before I calculated how many rounds I shot and figured out that that time it was like 2000+ and now it is still working after 8600-8700 rounds through it!So that just probably means-if you want to know what is eternity try crush-testing German Mauser,just imagine how huge is that pile of ammo which the intact Mauser can survive!So despite everyone thinking that Mauser is less reliable than Mosins-in fact it is wrong.German Mauser is probably the most reliable firearm ever,except single shots..
The thing which I forgot to mention about rebar bolt head is that before all process that I described that blank of the following part was in fact properly thermally hardened so it was already not the rebar steel which is cr.. so I don't know how it was working and was it working at all or just became a souvenir.
And really about shooting relics-yes,it is dangerous until you get enough experience enough to figure out for example how will really just excavated rifle you raised 5 minutes ago perform and also how many parts will be replaced or just better would be deactivate it and sell to someone because it really does not worth it because though you know that the chamber is intact because there is the round in there but according to it's angle of it's bedding and the estimated water dinamics of exactly that place it was oftenly flooded inside the barrel and near the point where the bullet of the chambered round is stocked it should have pittings in the bore near the bullet and because of angle it will affect bullets to shift in different sides harmonically when passing through the bore so it will take a lot time and money to fix that and you don't want such a time waste?After getting enough experience to be able to figure all that out simply just with first glance and be sure that you are right-then you most likely will not be injured because you know what you are doing.
And about the rounds I can also tell you that yes,German primers are almost everytime intact,also near 1/3 of rounds that I found the powder was dry and absolutely intact and near 1/4 of 7.92 that we found were able to be loaded and fired safely even without exterior brushing because they were either in ammo can or in belt which was inside the closed belt container or just ammo crates and in these cases rounds are preserved well and good to shoot.And the API bullets work like they should just because if rust didn't reach the incendiary component that means it will 100% work like it should and incinerate everything that it was intended to incinerate normally.
And among the best of military surplus rifles in terms of cost you know what I would choose from both bolt-action and semi auto if I would have been offered to choose for free?Yes,both times the most expensive among semi-auto and bolts are Mausers,which I would grab in both cases..But no,not k98 or m98-I mean Mauser G41(M),and yes,look about it in the video on forgottenweapons.com,it is really the most expensive among WW2 military surplus both semi-auto and bolt-action ones,because there are only 841 of them presently located in all the world and total number of them which weren't melted by Germans was 1673..And yes,it is both action types in one extremely overcomplicated and insanely expensive rifle��
And about the guy who wrote about two fingers that I have-probably you're right-for you I maybe will really have just 2 fingers left-something like that ����
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And about other stuff-I can assure you that not only Mosins shoot in such conditions-just as you probably see that Mauser on my photos is damaged more significantly so as I said I always thought that it will go off during next few rounds..Before I calculated how many rounds I shot and figured out that that time it was like 2000+ and now it is still working after 8600-8700 rounds through it!So that just probably means-if you want to know what is eternity try crush-testing German Mauser,just imagine how huge is that pile of ammo which the intact Mauser can survive!So despite everyone thinking that Mauser is less reliable than Mosins-in fact it is wrong.German Mauser is probably the most reliable firearm ever,except single shots..
The thing which I forgot to mention about rebar bolt head is that before all process that I described that blank of the following part was in fact properly thermally hardened so it was already not the rebar steel which is cr.. so I don't know how it was working and was it working at all or just became a souvenir.
And really about shooting relics-yes,it is dangerous until you get enough experience enough to figure out for example how will really just excavated rifle you raised 5 minutes ago perform and also how many parts will be replaced or just better would be deactivate it and sell to someone because it really does not worth it because though you know that the chamber is intact because there is the round in there but according to it's angle of it's bedding and the estimated water dinamics of exactly that place it was oftenly flooded inside the barrel and near the point where the bullet of the chambered round is stocked it should have pittings in the bore near the bullet and because of angle it will affect bullets to shift in different sides harmonically when passing through the bore so it will take a lot time and money to fix that and you don't want such a time waste?After getting enough experience to be able to figure all that out simply just with first glance and be sure that you are right-then you most likely will not be injured because you know what you are doing.
And about the rounds I can also tell you that yes,German primers are almost everytime intact,also near 1/3 of rounds that I found the powder was dry and absolutely intact and near 1/4 of 7.92 that we found were able to be loaded and fired safely even without exterior brushing because they were either in ammo can or in belt which was inside the closed belt container or just ammo crates and in these cases rounds are preserved well and good to shoot.And the API bullets work like they should just because if rust didn't reach the incendiary component that means it will 100% work like it should and incinerate everything that it was intended to incinerate normally.
And among the best of military surplus rifles in terms of cost you know what I would choose from both bolt-action and semi auto if I would have been offered to choose for free?Yes,both times the most expensive among semi-auto and bolts are Mausers,which I would grab in both cases..But no,not k98 or m98-I mean Mauser G41(M),and yes,look about it in the video on forgottenweapons.com,it is really the most expensive among WW2 military surplus both semi-auto and bolt-action ones,because there are only 841 of them presently located in all the world and total number of them which weren't melted by Germans was 1673..And yes,it is both action types in one extremely overcomplicated and insanely expensive rifle��
And about the guy who wrote about two fingers that I have-probably you're right-for you I maybe will really have just 2 fingers left-something like that ����
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Indeed turned out to be one of the best thread ever!!
Absolutely INCORRECT. From 1942 onward, sniper barrels were pulled from regular production and gauged to make sure they were in spec, then marked as sniper barrels and set aside. Prior to 1942 there was a different assembly line and they were more carefully rifled, but dimensionally they were the same as regular infantry barrels.
Throughout production, there were more sniper barrels made than sniper rifles and many regular infantry rifles were assembled with sniper marked barrels, but they were not sniper rifles.
You should buy Alexandre Yuschenko's book on the subject - he publishes the original factory documents on the matter and I assure YOU that you are incorrect in your views
I would also be curious to see how you can measure 5 microns with tooling you would have around the home shop. I'm impressed. That's only 0.005 mm or 0.00019 inches.
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Millimeters are not microns
And thats why my rebar bolt heads don't ever fit! All this time I've been using a lathe and measuring to the thousand and not the micron.
Just in case someone here was really good at school..But not in Russian ones-and as for me-most of my gunsmithing skills I gained just by my interest and huge availability of various guns for my experiments.And the rest came from my family business-and it is military supreme quality optical industry.So believe me,I know about microns far more than you all as about high precision measuring tools and techniques-when I was working in my father's sub-firm on hand manufacturing of 2-nd stage optics in the blank production division-we almost each time had to prepare our blanks within tolerance of 100 nanometres-the final product after polishing and covering stages should fit up to 1-3 nanometres tolerances-and they did.But not about that-what I tell you-for me since then it's not too hard to determine for example 10 or 20 microns difference-just without any tools-only compare.Otherwise I wouldn't stay on that job for more than a week-and I worked there for 8 months.In fact more to learn some important things about high precision production and so on.So please don't try to argue that-since you only heard about microns last time in college-and I am involved in Russian military optical industry-this is even not funny,guys..
And again if someone wants to check all that I say and wants some things to be proved-okay,if someone is coming around near Ontario, Toronto,North York district-Robert Hicks driveway-just write me about what you want to clarify-and I suppose we will meet somewhere around,if you want.
And yes,about PU-sniper Mosins:this is proof link which shows my absolute correctness-just find someone who will translate from Russian or just find the same reel translated.Everything about EXACT and undisputed number of differences and improvements in sniper modification of Mosin.Begins at 5:30 and since that mark everything is told in the most accurate way.
https://youtu.be/RUvhR3yiUsQ
And again if someone wants to check all that I say and wants some things to be proved-okay,if someone is coming around near Ontario, Toronto,North York district-Robert Hicks driveway-just write me about what you want to clarify-and I suppose we will meet somewhere around,if you want.
And yes,about PU-sniper Mosins:this is proof link which shows my absolute correctness-just find someone who will translate from Russian or just find the same reel translated.Everything about EXACT and undisputed number of differences and improvements in sniper modification of Mosin.Begins at 5:30 and since that mark everything is told in the most accurate way.
https://youtu.be/RUvhR3yiUsQ
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