best bolt gun ever/
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bearkilr
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You can still find Norma MRP? (Reloder 22 doesn't count)
I have a Sauer 80 which is basically the same as the 90, bit older. Very smooth, but I had some trigger mechanism issues. It wouldn't #### at times, apparently a common problem on the hair trigger systems.
I wouldn't rate it as the best bolt gun though. The Mauser action is far superior.
How did Remington and Savage get in on this thread?
Johnn Peterson
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Particularly in the 308 NM, Norma 204 and 205 were my main choices. Now, for the most part, it's a selection of IMR powders. Telling a friend about my recent purchase, he gave me a gift, an unopened can of Norma 205. Brings back memories.
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which ever rifle is in my at the time
daddylonglegs
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Bearkilr : I used to be a dealer. When I quit in the mid-90's I stocked up on Norma powders for my own use. Still have 2lb of MRP and some 203 & 204. The one I'm out of is 202 - it just plain rocks in the .223!!! I have seen the odd can of MRP at recent gunshows. The asking price is obscene compared to what I used to charge. In my experience MRP (and the other Norma powders) get you the same velocity or better than IMR powders and at milder pressure levels.
Long ago I bought 25 lbs of Xelex 105 powder from Higgins. It performs same as Norma 205. At recent Edmonton gun show a real old feller had 1 can of 203 and 204. Wanted $50 for each. Have had same sprung action problems with the S&L and the Rem788, that's why traded them off. Still stop though and handle every S&L I see at gunshows. Was a nice one in 264 mag at the Edmonton show, asking $1700.
MRP is still available if you know where to look. It is my go-to powder for the 308 Norma and always has been. Also top performer in 7x57, 30-06, 300 Win Mag, 7mm Rem Mag, etc, etc. For those wondering, try bcredneck.com Eagleye.
The Sauer 90 is a very finely made rifle but it doesn't turn my crank. I like the Winchester Pre 64 M70 from a purely functional standpoint and the Manllicher Schoenaur as a very fine rifle that shows alot of character and thought.
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Johnn Peterson
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In a bolt action, hard to beat a model 70 and I still have one in 458 WM. Nothing shabby about the Ruger M-77 either.
bearkilr
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Too bad, I thought you maybe had a source. Apparently it's available in the US yet.
I have a whole case of some sort of Norma pistol powder, but it's so old I think I'll save it for fireworks.
Eagleye- Thanks, I'll check that out!
I'm voting for my Cooey .22!
Ok, now that you've picked yourself up off the floor and have stopped laughing, I'd vote for my Voere .270 - really nice wood and a very smooth action. Never had any issues with this rifle after many hundreds of rounds...
I haven't had the pleasure of handling a Sauer or a Blaser but have definitely had my hands on a Rem. Model 700 - I prefer my Winchester Model 70 to that for a North American rifle.
Ok, now that you've picked yourself up off the floor and have stopped laughing, I'd vote for my Voere .270 - really nice wood and a very smooth action. Never had any issues with this rifle after many hundreds of rounds...
I haven't had the pleasure of handling a Sauer or a Blaser but have definitely had my hands on a Rem. Model 700 - I prefer my Winchester Model 70 to that for a North American rifle.
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Seems like a lot of the guns being discussed here are priced out of the range of hunters like me, you aren't rich enough to budget for them. For me, if a $7000 rifle doen't shoot or feel 6X better than a $1000 gun, then I don't know if it's really an empirically 'better' gun.
Or rather, It's most likely a better gun, but in a world where price is as important as it is, I'd say that affordability should be one of the criteria we use when settling on the best bolt gun. I guess I'd see it breaking down something like:
Materials
+Workmanship
+Quality Control
+Looks
+Ease of operation/feel
+Affordability
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Best damned gun on Earth
I like my m70, myself, though I don't have experience with enough guns to really add anything to this thread. Uh, any love to CZs here? I've been reading a lot about them lately, and I'm kind of interested...
Or rather, It's most likely a better gun, but in a world where price is as important as it is, I'd say that affordability should be one of the criteria we use when settling on the best bolt gun. I guess I'd see it breaking down something like:
Materials
+Workmanship
+Quality Control
+Looks
+Ease of operation/feel
+Affordability
--------------------
Best damned gun on Earth
I like my m70, myself, though I don't have experience with enough guns to really add anything to this thread. Uh, any love to CZs here? I've been reading a lot about them lately, and I'm kind of interested...
That's true. My bad.
