Best Canadian Legal Battle Rifle?

Best Canadian Legal Battle Rifle?


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M14 would be in top of the list but as others said the Garand could be a good choice. For me,even if ammo availability can vary, and since i'm a russian rifle fan, i would pick a SVT 40. Once you know the SVT, its quite an very effective rifle(i would take the svt over the garand). Ofc its only my humble opinion:)
Jocelyn
 
"Long Branch Lee Enfield No.4 Mk.1. You shouldn't be able to vote in this country unless you own one."

Well put, but I would add the following...

"You shouldn't be able to vote in this country unless you own at least one." :)
 
Awesome post redivivus! I really liked your distinction between battle rifles and assault rifles.

By the way I couldn't agree more with FAL (my all time favorite!) and I've heard only great things about G3 but sadly both not legal in Canada :(

I already have an M14 variant on the way. Between RFB, XCR, ACR (if canadian legal) which one do you choose? Which is most reliable? Which is most tested?
 
Oh and is M78 really that heavy? I didn't think it was much heavier than all the other 7.62 and .308 rifles M14 included (especially in Sage stock).
 
I will play - of the choices. You have listed I will take a M1A scout and hope the AIA 10 round mags work :). Glassed with NF NXS 5.5-22x50 MLR Mil/Mil this should be effective.
 
Actually, if we're gonna say "legal". I'll say FAL.

It might not be legal for me, nor most, but there are still a few legally owned ones lurking around - I realize fully that they can't be shot anywhere legally.... But they are technically still legal for a few!

And, without doubt, the best battle rifle EVER (Except in the opinion of those few who like the M-14 style shooting gallery pieces, that came and went from history faster than a two door hatchback Dodge Charger!).

;)
 
Actually, if we're gonna say "legal". I'll say FAL.

It might not be legal for me, nor most, but there are still a few legally owned ones lurking around - I realize fully that they can't be shot anywhere legally.... But they are technically still legal for a few!

And, without doubt, the best battle rifle EVER (Except in the opinion of those few who like the M-14 style shooting gallery pieces, that came and went from history faster than a two door hatchback Dodge Charger!).

;)

If your refering to the M14, it's so good that it actually may be one of the rifles that's been in use the longest.
 
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Awesome post redivivus! I really liked your distinction between battle rifles and assault rifles.

By the way I couldn't agree more with FAL (my all time favorite!) and I've heard only great things about G3 but sadly both not legal in Canada :(

I already have an M14 variant on the way. Between RFB, XCR, ACR (if canadian legal) which one do you choose? Which is most reliable? Which is most tested?

rkungl: I have both the RFB and XCR-M on pre-oder so can't comment on reliability or testing of either. Prior to placing my order, I did shoot my friends' RFB extensively (~700 rounds) and was very pleased with the operation, fit and finish and the reliability. Accuracy was decent and were were hitting the 250m and 400m gongs consistently with a Vortex 1-4X24 PST. Once I get mine, I'll subject it to more in depth accuracy testing. Perhaps someone else who owns it can chime in with their experience.

If I had to choose between the RFB and the XCR-M, I would get the RFB simply because it is "cute" :p The XCR-M, however, has the more traditional battle rifle look and if it is anything like the XCR-L in operation (which I have) it's going to be a tough rifle to beat.

FWIW, I had posted a quick comparison between my Swiss PE90 and the XCR-L. It might assist you in your research:

Currently own both and having used them extensively (> 4000 rounds on each), a few thoughts,

- Ergonomics: The XCR has superior ergonomics - left side charging handle, safety is easier to manipulate, magazine button release on the magwell and the finger bolt release at the base of the magwell/ trigger guard intersection. The ergonomics on the PE90 take a little bit of training to master, but work just as well. It just depends which school of though you align yourself to.
- Magazines: The Swiss has by far the better magazine over the AR15 mags. Built like a tank, smooth in operation and virtually jam-free – and has a ‘bullet feeder’ to boot. Additionally, they can be stacked for bonus coolness factor. The 5 round capacity compared to the LAR 10 rounders is a slight negative, but for paper target shooting I don’t suppose it really matters too much. An OEM Swiss magazine is pricey, but used ones or the Dominion Arms mags are competitively priced to the AR mags.
- Magazine changes: On the XCR, they are quick and efficient with minimal drama. On the Swiss you get the bonus swagger of the AK style ‘flick and change’. Magazine seating on the Swiss is more involved (insert at an angle and lock) but more positive and you can tell when it is fully seated. The XCR’s changes are just like an AR – drop free the old mag and slam up the new one.
- Build quality: They both are superbly built and feel like they are carved out of a single block of steel but the Swiss Arms is slightly better with tighter tolerances and certainly has more heft to it.
- Sights: The stock diopter iron sights on the Swiss are just stupendous, although the Midwest Industries flip ups on the XCR are not too shabby either and just as accurate. But compared to the Swiss, they look delicate and fragile and are, comparably, difficult to manipulate. Oh and the Swiss has night sights as standard equipment.
- Accuracy: They are almost equally accurate, Slight edge to the Swiss although the XCR does have the ‘more’ accurate heavy barrel.
- Reliability: Both are dead stupid reliable with factory ammo and quality mags. Haven’t abused either, but have noticed they run just as well to the 500 odd rounds that I run them to before cleaning.
- Trigger: Prefer the Swiss trigger – it’s exceptionally light and smooth, but the XCR’s ‘match’ trigger is also sublime and leagues ahead of most AR triggers.
- Operation: They are both very very smooth operating firearms and operate like a well oiled sewing machine. The XCR does throw spent brass a fair distance (~15-20 feet) whereas the spent brass on the Swiss likes to bounce off the receiver and hence causes some scratching – but hockey tape fixes that.
- Maintenance: Both are low maintenance and unassuming firearms. They will keep running for extended periods without cleaning. The XCR does require a few bolts to the loctited in place and checked periodically. I have never had any come loose or fall out – just incorporate it part of the cleaning/ inspection procedure and forget about it being an issue.
- Rails: The XCR has a s**t ton of rail space for mounting everything up to and including your kitchen sink. The Swiss is tastefully minimal. Note that the Classic green does not come with a top rail either (but aftermarket rail available) so mounting a scope requires additional investment over the XCR.
- Stock: The XCR has a fixed stock, the Swiss has a folding one. Take your pick. There is no play with the folding stock and the LOP on both stocks is just perfect.
- Balance: Both balance very well if a touch front heavy. Recoil is mild on both when compared to an AR and offhand and sitting position shooting is easy with or without a sling. The Swiss has a built in bipod for prone, but I find it to be a touch too high for me.
- Design: The XCR’s design is elegantly simplistic and rugged whereas the Swiss uses the tried and proven AK design philosophy.
- General ‘feel’: They both have a lot of ‘presence’ when compared to an AR. The XCR looks a lot more stylized whereas the Swiss has the traditional ‘Old Army’ look. Personal preference really. The Swiss does, however, feel slimmer in the hands and more handier even though it does have a ~ 2” longer barrel.

My recommendation: If you have an AR, buy the Swiss and get the XCR later. If you don’t have an AR, get whichever one tugs at your purse strings stronger. They are both really really nice firearms and you can’t really go wrong with either. One has to really nitpick as, believe it or not, there is not a whole lot of difference separating the two!
 
If your refering to the M14, it's so good that it actually may be one of the rifles that's been in use the longest.

In what parallel universe?

I mean, my beloved Enfields hit the dirt in 1888, and are still issued today.

The FAL was first issued around 1952... and is still issued in a few places in the world today.

The M-14 was issued for a few years until Vietnam showed it was not quite appropriate for THAT particular police action, then it was shelved, until the long ranges of Iraq / Afghanistan showed that having one or two specially modified .308s per squad / section was kinda handy. The life of the M-14 as a "battle rifle" was spectacularly short - It is now an occasional DMR, and that's about it.

IMHO....

:cheers:
 
Would the No.1 MK III* 1917 vintage be acceptable?

Heh...I hope so...

As far as battle rifles go, there are going to be trade-offs to stay inside the law [as it currently stands].

The M-14 is great, but you're limited to 5-round mags.

The Garand has many merits [holds 8 rounds, reloads fast], but ammo is a problem. If you can get one chambered for 7.62x51, it would be excellent.

The SKS is a very decent rifle...the cartridge is a little underpowered, but you can get LOTS of ammo for cheap, and you can reload fast with stripper clips.

A Lee-Enfield holds 10 rounds of full-power ammo, and for _aimed fire_ a bolt gun isn't that much inferior to a semi-auto. I'd say the same thing about a Ruger Scout rifle too, although it might not be sufficiently robust for high-volume fire [and magazines and reloading have a few issues too].


Bottom line...the M-14 FTW. I would put the SKS in second place however, given its great value for price, and ammo availability.
 
M14 for me, any kind will do. Hell, I don't even need a stock or ammo to go with it. Just give me the metal bits and gubbins and I will use it as a war club.
 
For this 'bizzaro universe', I would take an FN...

I have used 'em, know 'em, like e'm and trust 'em. Maybe not the best compared to what is out there today, but it is battle proven on this planet, easy tear down, low mtce...

That or a Lee Enfield. Technolgy is great, but sometimes simple is better, and when I blasting zombie martians, I don't want to worry about the flux capicitor jamming or not having 1.21 gigawatts when I am under attack.
 
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