Best gun for white horse, yukon?
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This tragedy happened shortly after my last trip up there, I made a note to self. Shotgun and bear spray next time, though I did carry bear spray.
https://globalnews.ca/news/5103435/yukon-grizzly-attack-coroner-report/
Grizz
https://globalnews.ca/news/5103435/yukon-grizzly-attack-coroner-report/
Grizz
A short lever in 45-70 would be a good option for carrying around and having enough punch up close, soemthing like this would be my pick
A few years ago money was short and I had to sell my Browning BLR in 450 Marlin. That would have done it.
Not a fun story: My current go-everywhere gun is a Dominion grizzly box-mag. I didn't want a chinese gun but it was the only one with a box mag. I bought it for prospecting because it is small and fits in my ATV rack, and I can load/unload quickly. I carry it safety-off with nothing in the chamber, so if I need it then I just rack it. I tried it out with some target shot, worked great. My mistake, I never tried it out with slugs ($$). A few years later my buddy came, he just bought a new shotgun and wanted to go shoot things, when I finally got around to shooting the slugs... they have got moisture in them. Had a few sizzle, One didn't go off, one was a delayed reaction. I thought I learned a lesson. Got some new slugs and threw away the ones that had been carried in the bush. fast forward 2 years, went out with other buddy. Same brand slugs, new, when fired they didn't eject. So now I need to clean it up and polish the chamber and shoot it until I feel comfortable with it. Other shotgun is a Remington 12G super mag fowl gun but it is long for the bush.
Is a 12G really enough against grizzly and polars, or bison? seems small. Or do I need a magnum slug? Heavy and slow slug, or fast and light?
nice way to be woken up
A short lever in 45-70 would be a good option for carrying around and having enough punch up close, soemthing like this would be my pick
Pretty MUCH as Good as it will Get ! RJ
One would think the smart choice(with whats available in my safe) would be the Marlin 1895G in 45-70, loaded with a heavy 450 or 480 gr hardcast, but my Rossi 92 in 454 Casull (which has given me absolutely zero reasons to not trust it) is just so nice to carry, and is no slouch either...
Even better would be to apply for a wilderness atc, & Ruger super blackhawk.
Even better would be to apply for a wilderness atc, & Ruger super blackhawk.
I think shotguns are maybe a good alternative to a 45/70 but I had an incident involving a wounded bear, a winchester defender in one hand, the forstock and parts of the mechanism in the other after the first shot which was 00 buckshot. I wound up throwing the shotgun at the bear. Can't speak for mossberg or remington but winchester does not make a good boomerang at all. Also buckshot not very good on a fat fat fat spring bear (it turns them and definately kills them with a good head shot or straight on side shot but when they are charging you are kinda shooting downish so shot hangs up a bit in the fat on their shoulders and does not get good enough penetration) so if shooting slugs why not just use a 45-70? You lose the shotgun pattern "advantage" anyway. Also I think a defender holds 4 shells and a GBL hold 6. Granted a slug probably has way more stopping power than a 45/70. If you do carry a shotgun I would not do the buckshot / slug / buckshot/ slug thing some people recomend. I would go maybe birdshot for first shot to see if you can turn the bear and not kill it or blind it if its a close in charge, then slugs after the first one cause at that point the discussion is over. I also would not do the pistol grip thing. You need all the muscle memory help you can get.
In all honesty I think bearspray is far better than a gun unless you are hunting bears. I have it with me almost all the time and had to use it once and it worked well. Nothing more awkward then trying to do ANYTHING with a gun on your shoulder. Fish, pick berries, light a fire...does not matter as eventually you are gonna lean that gun against a tree and walk away from it....and Mr Murphy spends time in the great outdoors also.
We get 1 or 2 bear maulings a year up here but it is not really worth losing sleep over. Bring whatever form of protection you are familiar with and you can carry comfortably.
Sadly they don't give ATCs unless it's work related from what I've heard. Simply going on vacation in bear country isn't good enough.
Also a pistol isn't better in relation to stopping power or effectiveness. Their advantage is the compactness/light weight, and you're giving up a lot of power to get that size/ weight. Now, you might argue that a 454 or 460sw would provide plenty of power, but then you're giving up shootability - how fast can you get a second shot off with a 454 handgun compared to your 454 rifle?
My point is there's tradeoffs for both. Chances are very low the OP could get an ATC so it's kinda a moot point, but simply because you CAN carry a handgun doesn't automatically make it better. I sure do wish it was an option for more of us though.
load the first shell with chilly pepper and shoot that at the bear... instant chilly pepper bear banger
it's really too bad us hunters and back country users can't be trusted to carry a sidearm for personal protection.
A wheelgun in 44 mag or 454 Casull or maybe an auto in 45acp or 10mm would do the trick nicely and be much safer to carry and deploy vs a shotgun or lever gun though both of those are also good choices.
A wheelgun in 44 mag or 454 Casull or maybe an auto in 45acp or 10mm would do the trick nicely and be much safer to carry and deploy vs a shotgun or lever gun though both of those are also good choices.
Something that was brought up in a different thread was that theoretically the newly appointed Alberta CFO could start issuing ATCs to people. Apparently they can issue ATCs in provinces other than their own as well.
Safer to carry and deploy? Can you elaborate on that?
.44 Magnum Mars Leg {12" Barrel} If just more-so for protection, the grip is doable. You can also put a regular full size stock on it. If you're feeling daring' The .357 Mars Leg w/ Bear Loads. I wish I never sold mine. Henry & Chiappa make them. Great little carbine to take hiking...although, Black Bears & Coyotes was the most dangerous thing here. Those are hard to find atm. A short 12 gauge pump would keep you safe & is the easiest/simplest & {lowest cost} option. A compact over/under is nice too, but also hard to find & a bit pricey.
In all honesty I think bearspray is far better than a gun unless you are hunting bears. I have it with me almost all the time and had to use it once and it worked well. Nothing more awkward then trying to do ANYTHING with a gun on your shoulder. Fish, pick berries, light a fire...does not matter as eventually you are gonna lean that gun against a tree and walk away from it....and Mr Murphy spends time in the great outdoors also.
I agree! As for 1-2 mauling a year, I don’t think so, in my 25 years up here there as been maybe 5 death and maybe the same in non fatal accident…. But I don’t have stats in hand so I might be wrong!
I agree! As for 1-2 mauling a year, I don’t think so, in my 25 years up here there as been maybe 5 death and maybe the same in non fatal accident…. But I don’t have stats in hand so I might be wrong!
Lol taylor swift
safer to carry and deploy...... I suppose that would just be my opinion Suther.
A sidearm is carried either on the chest or in a typical holster or drop leg holster rig. It is my opinion that you can have that sidearm in your hand and ready in mere seconds while most other options would take more time to deploy. If the aggressor gets in too close for effective use of the "long gun/shotgun" the sidearm is again the better option. In a pinch the sidearm can be fired accurately with one hand, any other option might not be. If knocked to the ground, the sidearm in your hand is still a formidable means of self defense even if the aggressor is right on top of you.
If I m hunting with a scoped centerfire long gun and am suddenly and instantly confronting an aggressive force intent on doing me harm..... I'll do what I can with that scope rifle but in close, give me a sidearm any day of the week. Carrying a shorty shotgun or a maresleg or similar sized self defense tool , for me, was just too cumbersome while also lugging around one of my hunting rigs such as my ruger 77mkII 7mm rem mag..... not a light rig. I no longer own a mare's leg or a shorty shotgun as they don't serve me well personally.
Wish I could carry a sidearm though...... if it saves one life??? right???
