Smellie, now 2 of us have asked!..........pics of those beauties pretty please with a cherry on top!!!
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Smellie, now 2 of us have asked!..........pics of those beauties pretty please with a cherry on top!!!
Do I own an SKS as asked above? The answer is no, I own 5.
The point I am trying to make is if you are serious in investing you need to purchase good quality, relatively rare firearms that are in demand and that are going to be so many years from now. Try .22 military trainers. People will still want them and be able to shot them long after the SKS has been restricted and prohibited.
The point I am trying to make is if you are serious in investing you need to purchase good quality, relatively rare firearms that are in demand and that are going to be so many years from now. Try .22 military trainers. People will still want them and be able to shot them long after the SKS has been restricted and prohibited.
With the 100 anniversary of WW1 coming up, interest in the weapons of this era is sure to go up dramatically iin the next few years. With the prices of Mausers, Garands, Enfield, Arisakas going crazy lately, I think the real sleepers right now are the Carcanos.
i've bought and sold a few milsups and it is rare to make enough money to consider them an investment, picking cans would have a better return. on the other hand, i did quite well on ammo by the case.
i'd buy a case or two of soviet rifles, but i suspect that they would already have been creamed.
i'd buy a case or two of soviet rifles, but i suspect that they would already have been creamed.
I would have to disagree a bit on the Carcanos. The positive for them is that they are extremely inexpensive, so for new collectors entering the hobby, its a cheap price of admission. For more seasoned collectors, it opens another area to expand their collection. Another positive is that they have (from what I understand) enough variants to be able to build an interesting collection. The negative is that the italian army really wasnt all that significant during WW2. Back to my word of "cachet"! This takes away from the aura of those firearms. Hell, one could argue that the Italians were more of a hindrance to their German allies then to us. Also consider that there is a large Italian population in North America. One would think this would cause a lot of interest in these firearms over the last 40 years, but it has not. I think you will see some upward pressure wrt to pricing on these, but mostly due to the fact that they are so cheap currently. To top it off, they dont even look all that "cool".
Saying all that, I am looking for a couple for myself, just so i can have something for my WW2 collection.
IMHO the best investment guns for most of us are the ones that have not yet gotten over the $1000 mark and can still be had in nice shape.
Examples include:
- unissued south American mousers
- yugo mousers
- anything Japanese
- Springfield rifles
- the RIGHT soviet stuff (low production year svt's, wartime tt-33's, non-refurb m44's, tula hex m44s, refurb pu snipers, etc.)
- anything ww1, particularly french and German stuff. UK ww1 stuff has already seen its biggest inflation factor around 10yrs ago.
Examples include:
- unissued south American mousers
- yugo mousers
- anything Japanese
- Springfield rifles
- the RIGHT soviet stuff (low production year svt's, wartime tt-33's, non-refurb m44's, tula hex m44s, refurb pu snipers, etc.)
- anything ww1, particularly french and German stuff. UK ww1 stuff has already seen its biggest inflation factor around 10yrs ago.
Echoing smellie's post. Most of us here I believe collect for the passion of history, rather than looking as an investment. That is maybe why we pay our stupid prices for our Garands and K98s. Claven2 is correct I believe as well, with the Japanese firearms. Was only a few years ago few would touch them. Throw in some The Pacific and keep replaying Band of Brothers and SPR, and you've got a new generation of milsurp lovers.
I remember when RC k98 rifles came into Canada. Many said those of us who collect K98 rifles would see a decerease in value of our pieces. The exact opposite happened, and those RC pieces are almost as collectable and difficult to find as matching examples once were.
And it was only a few years ago, I saw Russian SKS rifles on this very site sell for $5-$600. Maybe their time will come again.
I still say the P38 pistol will become the next big thing. Original configuration and matching examples will jump in value soon. They have been sitting idle for some time, and they are due.
I remember when RC k98 rifles came into Canada. Many said those of us who collect K98 rifles would see a decerease in value of our pieces. The exact opposite happened, and those RC pieces are almost as collectable and difficult to find as matching examples once were.
And it was only a few years ago, I saw Russian SKS rifles on this very site sell for $5-$600. Maybe their time will come again.
I still say the P38 pistol will become the next big thing. Original configuration and matching examples will jump in value soon. They have been sitting idle for some time, and they are due.
Above post is correct.Anything canadian.Long branches,DCRA 7.62 conversions:less than 2000 produced,canadian marked long lees and carbines,regiment marked SMLE's,any original enfield with matching numbers and wood
Within the next 10 years most semi-auto's will be banned and maybe handguns as well.
Within the next 10 years most semi-auto's will be banned and maybe handguns as well.
Hey Joe
I have always wondered about the P38 as well. I always felt they were undervalued as well. Considering that most people cannot buy a Luger, you would think collectors would be clamouring to purchase the German army's main issued pistol from the war.
I have always wondered about the P38 as well. I always felt they were undervalued as well. Considering that most people cannot buy a Luger, you would think collectors would be clamouring to purchase the German army's main issued pistol from the war.
I know, Light Infantry, that's what I think anyway. Russian Capture p38 pistols are selling around the $600 mark, and I picked up a nice matching CYQ rig including mags and holster for a great price, much less, in December.
Granted, not an AC, but I love the Spreewerke.
Granted, not an AC, but I love the Spreewerke.
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Like it or not, you own guns at the pleasure of the Government. All it takes is another maniac on a shooting spree with a semi-auto or handgun and you might well see wholesale bans/confiscations similar to what happened in Australia. A majority government has virtually dictatorial powers to do what it wants. We do live in a country which created and invoked the War Measures Act, one of the most egregious violations of individual rights and freedoms on record.
Government already has plenty of latitude to act without any additional legislation. Witness several Orders In Council which have arbitrarily designated specific firearms as banned/prohibited as a result of bureaucratic initiatives.
In Canada I can see anything that may have been used by Canadian troops in that conflict going through the roof, especially anthing at all with provenance.
As an aside, here in yUK last year my pal Dave paid £3500 for a stone-standard ALL-Canadian sniping rifle set-up - a Long Branch No 4 Mk 1* sniper and its as-issued C No32 scope on REL mounts - all correct and completely cased up with all the accessories including the Scout Regiment spotting scope. I predict that although it is a WW2 rifle, within two years he will double his investment.
tac
As an aside, here in yUK last year my pal Dave paid £3500 for a stone-standard ALL-Canadian sniping rifle set-up - a Long Branch No 4 Mk 1* sniper and its as-issued C No32 scope on REL mounts - all correct and completely cased up with all the accessories including the Scout Regiment spotting scope. I predict that although it is a WW2 rifle, within two years he will double his investment.
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That's exactly what Paul Martin (Lie-beral) wanted to do (Ban Handguns) and campaigned on, but Harper won his minority government.
Handgun sales went through the roof when Martin announced this.
I guess I got lucky about 6 years ago, judging from the prices i see now, when I really got into Mildurps, not for investment purposes, but because I am a History buff. Not to mention I have family that fought for both sides. I was able to get a nice Garand, '55 mind you, a Longbranch No4 in EX shape, a No5 and RC capture K98 with Markings intact, all from P&S.
I think the best deal i made in milsurp are the 3 Yugo 59-66 with the tiger stripe stock, i bought from Marstar early 2000, a lot of peoples want to buy them from me but those are keepers, those were never issues and maybe only test shot... JP.
