Best non-res SHTF gun?
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Brutus
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Using your theory AB-69, perhaps even a 221 Fireball or even better, a good 22 Hornet, could up the ratio even better. As long as the round fits one's need, and one had enough of this ammo on hand. To go even smaller, may end up with severly diminished returns I think.
I'm well aware these rounds do not conjure up "jungle firefights" or sustained fire but any thoughts?
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I don't plan to get myself in the position in which I need sustained cover. I would need a round to take out primary targets and get my family/ group out of there. That's why I would pick either the 6.8 or the good, old fashioned .308.
Any extra holes one might acquire will be enough to change ones plans. As for needing cover for an extended period of time. That's something you may not have the option of choosing.
Being a victim is a choice, and its not always yours. Think about it.
TDC
I see what you mean. If I was to be pinned down unexpectedly, I would try to conserve some of my ammo, or I would just bring a .22 because I wouldn't have to worry about ammo conservation, or weight bringing me down while I was out doing mundaine things. If I had planned a small scale assault however to get food or equipment, I would carry a larger caliber to assure the damage cause by putting the round where it needs to go.
fat tony
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If I was going to be on my own, I would not be interested in getting in to pitched battles with unknown adversaries I would however be interested in using stealth. Of course I have no experience to base this on, except maybe sneaking home after school was out to avoid the bullies. 
I'm likely repeating several dozen people, but if crap hit the fan who cares what classification the firearm is in? Use whatever is the most easily accessible and you are the most proficient with.
Find some firearm and train your bloody arse off with it. Do the same with a different but small variety of them. Like a medium range semi-automatic rifle, shotgun, and handgun of some version.
If you never bothered to pipe up the cash for the restricted licence, no biggie, you could use a knife or similar non-ammo weapon as a sidearm (be sure to learn and train properly to use it, otherwise is bloody useless).
Find some firearm and train your bloody arse off with it. Do the same with a different but small variety of them. Like a medium range semi-automatic rifle, shotgun, and handgun of some version.
If you never bothered to pipe up the cash for the restricted licence, no biggie, you could use a knife or similar non-ammo weapon as a sidearm (be sure to learn and train properly to use it, otherwise is bloody useless).
Brutus
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I'll take two of them!
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Only if it has a quad rail to fill with cheap chinese accessories!!!
A lot of good thoughts and opinions, and a little bit of consistency, but it seems to depend largely on what a person already has. What I think would help the OP (and myself, for example) would be an idea of the best couple of options to look at pursuing in a SHTF firearm.
I own an SKS that I hate and an M14 that I love, but I'm not wild about carrying (or purchasing) a couple thousand rounds of 7.62 unless I'm bugging out in my Toyota. The problem I'm having is I could shell out $3000 and pick up pretty much everything I want (a pistol, a shotty, and an AR/CZ) after getting my restricted this spring, but I'd prefer to shell out another $1000 or so and pick up a dedicated platform (upgrades for my M14? An AR? A CZ?) and spend the rest on ammo.
I just can't seem to figure out the best route to go, and each seems to have downsides no matter what path you figure.
I own an SKS that I hate and an M14 that I love, but I'm not wild about carrying (or purchasing) a couple thousand rounds of 7.62 unless I'm bugging out in my Toyota. The problem I'm having is I could shell out $3000 and pick up pretty much everything I want (a pistol, a shotty, and an AR/CZ) after getting my restricted this spring, but I'd prefer to shell out another $1000 or so and pick up a dedicated platform (upgrades for my M14? An AR? A CZ?) and spend the rest on ammo.
I just can't seem to figure out the best route to go, and each seems to have downsides no matter what path you figure.
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Get rich...thats the best option
Its never perfect.
I switch to Benelli Mr1 from m14 because.
mr1 self cleaning,
fires .223 which the Military will have tones, you can carry tones, and its cheaper then .308
mr1 fires all types of loads, not really picky.
Other option is a nice ar15, ACR, cz, u got nothing else to pick from unless u like FN2000.
No matter what you need 1000 to 2500 for a rifle, 500 to 1000 for pistol, and 1000 for ammo.
No cheap way, this is no optics yet, for your rifle.
I suggest you look at a Benelli Mr1 on the CGN classified.
You have to understand that all these rifles wont last for ever with out proper maintenance. So a shotgun and a revolver will be essential for the long term plan.
Hybrid4163
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Wow! I actually read every post in this. I need a life!
#1 - You're required to pick a non-rest. Why, because the OP says so - that's why.
Could be so it's 'with you' when the shtf.
Could be to add more variety to the discussion (there being more non's than rest.)
Could be he doesn't yet have his rPal.
Reason doesn't matter - his rules = abide.
#2 - Only mentioned by 4 or 5 others, but Mini-30. Tons of ammo available, very reliable, a compromise of size/weight/knockdown power, and far more accurate than people give them credit for.
#1 - You're required to pick a non-rest. Why, because the OP says so - that's why.
Could be so it's 'with you' when the shtf.
Could be to add more variety to the discussion (there being more non's than rest.)
Could be he doesn't yet have his rPal.
Reason doesn't matter - his rules = abide.
#2 - Only mentioned by 4 or 5 others, but Mini-30. Tons of ammo available, very reliable, a compromise of size/weight/knockdown power, and far more accurate than people give them credit for.
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my scattergun aka 870
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KEL TECs new 14+1 shotgun!!!
