Best Norinco pistols

I know that you're looking for info on where to buy as apposed to quality, but I still have to put in my 2 bits in regards to quality; I have a model 93 and I love it! It's not too light or too heavy but rather a perfect weight. I can keep it on my desk and it doesn't matter whether I put it on one piece of paper or one thousand; it doesn't matter if I have the window open or closed, it doesn't matter if I have the fan on and pointed right at my desk, those papers stay right in place! I strongly recommend any Norinco pistol; they ALL make awesome paper-weights, you will not be disappointed.
 
I found with my 1911 the only complaint I have is that the mag was lousy. Spring is weak, material is flimsy. I bought a pair of Remington mags and now it works like a charm.

Cannon
 
lupothebutcher said:
I know that you're looking for info on where to buy as apposed to quality, but I still have to put in my 2 bits in regards to quality; I have a model 93 and I love it! It's not too light or too heavy but rather a perfect weight. I can keep it on my desk and it doesn't matter whether I put it on one piece of paper or one thousand; it doesn't matter if I have the window open or closed, it doesn't matter if I have the fan on and pointed right at my desk, those papers stay right in place! I strongly recommend any Norinco pistol; they ALL make awesome paper-weights, you will not be disappointed.
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Normally I think a lot of guys would get mad at the bashing, but honestly that made me laugh out loud!
 
Not to derail my own thread, but just a few observations; it seems that for every 10 or so happy Norinco clientele there is 1 who denounces as garbage. Could it be that there are some lemons made that slip through QC? There are other brands with issues as well, just more stringent with the quality assurance.
2nd; if they make such bad products, how are they still being imported and why do they sell so quickly?
Just some food for thought,
Thank you to all who have contributed, much appreciated.
 
I think you can get a lemon in any brand - whether it's model-related, or whether it was made on a Friday afternoon. I have two Norc AR-15's. One is amazing. One had sights so bad from the factory the only person who could have shot it was Marty Feldman. I bought a Sig Mosquito for Mrs. Cannon. Oh yes, Mighty Sig Industries. I should have saved my money and went with Nerf. What a piece of crap and I can't sell it to anyone in good conscience (not that it would matter - they certainly couldn't SHOOT ME with it bwahahahahaha).

Cannon
 
camnorth said:
it seems that for every 10 or so happy Norinco clientele there is 1 who denounces as garbage. Could it be that there are some lemons made that slip through QC? There are other brands with issues as well, just more stringent with the quality assurance.
2nd; if they make such bad products, how are they still being imported and why do they sell so quickly?
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Both of your points are good ones. Over the years I've seen a lot of Chinese-made products that had a relatively high rather of 'lemonitis'. If you get a good one, you are doing okay. I've had several Norinco guns...M305s, a 1911, an AR and an NP-34. Some of them needed a little tweaking to perform at their best, but they all ended up being very good shooters. If you deal with a vendor that will make things right if you _do_ get a lemon, all should be well. I think my experience is a lot more common than the 'Norcs are junk' folks'.
 
Forget the Norc haters, just ask yourself why there are so many Norc M4s with high round counts at ranges?

Why do so many dealers sell Norcs?

In 8 years I only had one bad Norc and I dumped it. But I have had 2 M305s that were great, one 870 clone which I will never sell, and 2 years ago a NP34/SIG 228 clone, which has never had a single problem and I will just keep.

So remember you are talking about a 350-400 gun purchase that's it. I have seen lots of shooters over the years spend big money, have problems, and just either defend the expensive purchases or not talk about it.

Buy what you can afford, then if you want more sell the Norc and move up. To me my Norcs do just fine and I don't have any need to dump 3 or 4 times more into a toy, not like I am in the Army overseas and need the absolute best there is, I am just a casual shooter enjoying a sport. :)


 
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the M93.......no failures
the NP 40 ...copy of a CZ .......NO failures
the NP 28 in 9mm.....no failures
the NP 29 in 9mm.....no failures

..maybe I have just been lucky....bought them all used and they are all still going strong (really liked the NP40)
 
lupothebutcher said:
I know that you're looking for info on where to buy as apposed to quality, but I still have to put in my 2 bits in regards to quality; I have a model 93 and I love it! It's not too light or too heavy but rather a perfect weight. I can keep it on my desk and it doesn't matter whether I put it on one piece of paper or one thousand; it doesn't matter if I have the window open or closed, it doesn't matter if I have the fan on and pointed right at my desk, those papers stay right in place! I strongly recommend any Norinco pistol; they ALL make awesome paper-weights, you will not be disappointed.
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ROFL. You have made my day. So true....

People forget that guns are precision tools.
 
norinco 45 pistols are good guns to begin with. Spend some money on it and it becomes a lot better. Basic gun
can be made into a good shooter
 
I have most of the Norc pistol models - and the real deal they cloned.

The norcs are excellent. Some need a trigger job, better sights and better grips. Not a bif deal.

The two Norcs that stand out (to me) are the new Sport 45 ACP 1911 and the clone of the CZ75 or 85.
 
NP 34 hands down is my best bargain in terms of functionality, fit and finish (very decent bluing with machine marks only on the inside. NP 34 eats any ammo without any hick ups and most of its parts are interchangeable with SIG P228/229 cousins. This thing is a winner.

In contrast, a couple of weeks ago I bought NP29 (9mm 1911 clone) from Tenda. VERY UNHAPPY. Lots of sharp corners (my son got a deep cut on his palm when trying to rake the slide), lousy magazines (the follower gets stuck in the mag release catch) and during shooting it produces a stove pipe upon a stove pipe. Not a single mag can be shot without 2-3-4 stove pipes. It appears the extractor needs to be tuned or better - replaced. A friend tied to tune his and ended up breaking it because the steel seems to be hardened excessively and is too brittle.
 
I notice most if not of all of the so- called junk haters have low post counts- if you want a qualified opinion , listen to ganderite and people with similar post counts- myself, I have 3 1911s - a Remington rand, a full race 1911 colt mk iv series 70 that I built from the ground up and the 2 tone norc sport- I also have 4 305s one of which I built back in 1990
 
I will also recommend a norinco pistol
have a np29, and a np22 with chrome slide .
Both have over 1000 rnds with no problems so far , and both are quite accurate

Had to touch up the follower on the 1911 mags, with a file . Wilson mags work great .
my guns get used , their main purpose is to function reliably, not to have perfect blueing

I would go with a Nork no problem , if its not for you , you could sell it on the EE for pretty much what you paid .

Lots of Sponsers here sell them , I have had good experiences with Can Am and Durham outdoors
 
af_newbie2 said:
Maybe they can, but they don't ship any precision tools to North America. I have not seen any good Chinese tools.

German, American, yes. Chinese precision tools are garbage.
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Really?

You may want to check what parts for your car were made on what in China, or your Apple products, or your Leupold rangefinder..... My buddy has a large lathe made in China in his CNC shop, seems good enough for him to run off parts.

Also I am curious what the Chinese use to produce their aircraft, tanks, and subs with? Don't think they are having the Germans or Americans supplying components?
 
My experience with Norincos has been very good in general. Some need a bit of tinkering. I actually enjoy that part of it, because it mostly involves making a good gun better. I've seen a total of one lemon (NP29 loose slide, jamming) out of a dozen others that were fine.
So my advice to anyone wanting to get into shooting handguns, buy a Norinco with a good return policy in case you get a lemon buying online, or look the gun over before taking it in the store.
Otherwise, buy used ones on the EE from sellers with good feedback who insist their gun has no issues.
If you follow my advice, I'd be very surprised you'll be disappointed. And if you are disappointed, sell it with full disclosure and take a small loss on it. No biggy. Never had to do it though.

I have a friend that has a fancy SIG competition pistol, bought new a few years ago, (steel frame/slide etc) that has been in for service at least twice, for long periods of time. He recently said to me:" I should have bought a Norinco like yours". No gun maker is immune from lemons, even when they cost a few thousand. Maybe a Norinco is a sloppier gun, and the price of a having a "swiss watch" class gun is they have a tendency to jam and sometimes break.
 
af_newbie2 said:
Maybe they can, but they don't ship any precision tools to North America. I have not seen any good Chinese tools.

German, American, yes. Chinese precision tools are garbage.
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We are starting to see some Chinese tooling components and hydraulic components that are on par with the Japanese and Italian stuff, in fit-and-finish, reliability and longevity. Automobile manufactures have been using Chinese suppliers for components and assemblies for years; and generally, reliability of automobiles has improved greatly since I was a kid.

You can buy garbage from China, but you can also buy good stuff. Good stuff costs more, regardless of where you buy it.
 
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