Best Norinco pistols
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af_newbie2
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Point me to one tools supplier (for hobbyists like us) that has quality Chinese tools sold here in North America. Busy Bee, Princess Auto, Grizzly, they all have ####ty tools.
Have you seen 'farming tools' from China? Talk about garbage. The softest steel I have ever seen on a farming equipment.
Of course DeWalts, Ridgids, car components are made in China for the most part. That is not the point.
If Glock or Ed Brown or Les Baer starts assembling their guns in China, of course, they will bring their QA teams with them, at least initially. And they will produce good quality guns.
You want quality guns, I'd not look at Norinco.
You are on a budget and want to just play around to see if you are going to like shooting, buy Norinco for what I care.
I'm just saying, guns are precision tools and Norincos are not it.
Then again, it depends on what your definition of precision is. Is it 1.5"@50 yards or 1.5"@5 yards?
So very true. The 1911 and M-93 are one great handgun. Check out the fit, finish, QC, dependability and accuracy on any of the made in the last 10 years.
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Very true . I bought a Norc 1911 years ago ,and never had any issues with it . Sometimes quality control with Norcs is not always up to par , so it is best to buy in person so that you can check the firearm over prior to purchase .
Everyone likes their Brand and each to his own, but I know no one who buys any brand that doesn't put an e mediate trigger or spring job or polishing ramps etc the list goes on. Just be happy with what you can afford and enjoy a great day at the range. Im happy
I highly doubt your more accurate then a Norc pistol and that it being from China is the biggest factor in accuracy.
No sense even arguing with some.
I have bought American, German, and Chinese guns, for years, they are all fine (except for one shotgun, it was a M37 clone), so buy what you can afford, and just ignore the naysayers.
Head down to a range with rental guns, have a good look at what they use and maybe ask about the round count, as you cannot argue facts.
If you have the money, and it will make you feel superior, just buy the most expensive gun your credit card will allow.
Whether guns or electronics I see the same behavior with people.
A girl at work was showing her her new Apple watch, she really made a point of saying how the quality was insane, not sure if it is made in China with other Apple products, anyways she spent over 600.00 on it!!!!
I thought it was a neat gimmick, so bought a Chinese Android watch because to me 600.00 on a smart watch is insane. Guess what it also lets me review my messages easily when in meetings so I don't need to pick up my phone.
Point is, my Chinese smart watch cost 1/6 of the Apple watch and works just fine.
When she saw me looking at messages she oh what is it, I said a cheap Android watch I bought for less than 100.00.
Got the Apple snub, but hey who cares I got more money in my pocket then she does and my Chinese smart watch does what I need.
I have bought American, German, and Chinese guns, for years, they are all fine (except for one shotgun, it was a M37 clone), so buy what you can afford, and just ignore the naysayers.
Head down to a range with rental guns, have a good look at what they use and maybe ask about the round count, as you cannot argue facts.
If you have the money, and it will make you feel superior, just buy the most expensive gun your credit card will allow.
Whether guns or electronics I see the same behavior with people.
A girl at work was showing her her new Apple watch, she really made a point of saying how the quality was insane, not sure if it is made in China with other Apple products, anyways she spent over 600.00 on it!!!!
I thought it was a neat gimmick, so bought a Chinese Android watch because to me 600.00 on a smart watch is insane. Guess what it also lets me review my messages easily when in meetings so I don't need to pick up my phone.
Point is, my Chinese smart watch cost 1/6 of the Apple watch and works just fine.
When she saw me looking at messages she oh what is it, I said a cheap Android watch I bought for less than 100.00.
Got the Apple snub, but hey who cares I got more money in my pocket then she does and my Chinese smart watch does what I need.
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Is that the reason why Wilson Combat amongst other US custom gunbuilders used Norinco frames and slides? Mind you this was before the Chinese Arms embargo.
i purchased a 1911 and have enjoyed learning some upgrading smithing polishing the ramp etc upgrading bits great gun shoots awesome
do get better quality mags though i went with a cpl colt and 4 extended kimbers
also picked up the np22 the sig 226 copy and have not done a thing to it other than polish the workings and add hogue grips great out of the box
safe shooting
do get better quality mags though i went with a cpl colt and 4 extended kimbers
also picked up the np22 the sig 226 copy and have not done a thing to it other than polish the workings and add hogue grips great out of the box
safe shooting
Lungorthin
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My fave Norc pistol
Randyhub- you are exactly right man, that's what I was getting at as well. How come they sell so well? How do they make these "top Firearms for Canadian owners" blog posts? I've also seen some higher end Firearms have issues too, maybe fewer and further between, but nonetheless... I'm pretty much going to be doing the exact thing that you outlined, better to have and not need than need and not have
got my np22 from al good fast service btw
af_newbie2
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Do you know what that even means? You just repeat something you don't even understand.
My wobble at 25 yards is about 1-1.5". How do I know it? Because I can shoot CZ and get consistent <3" groups at 25 yards. Same for P226. Glock 3-4" groups.
All these guns have sub 2"@25 yards mechanical accuracy.
Your wobble adds to your gun's dispersion. So if your Norinco spread is 5"@25 yards, you can only shoot 5" group in the ransom test from Norinco '1911'. And if your wobble is 4", you'll be shooting 9" groups at 25 yards.
BTW, I have consistently shot 575/600 on PPC using CZ. My wobble is way better than Norinco's 'spray & pray' technology.
You don't believe me? Buy a ransom vise and do the test yourself.
Is Norinco good for plinking at 7 yards? Of course it is. Is it more accurate than a real CZ, 1911, Glock, M&P or Sig? Of course it is not.
Not sure why you Norinco owners even want to discuss this.
You bought yourself a paper weight, shot it, now you know if you want to buy a real CZ, Sig or 1911.
You could have saved yourself few hundred dollars by going to a club that lets you shoot their store guns.
Repeating something I don't understand? I understand just fine how accuracy works as far as shooting goes and I'm not the one going around #### talking guns because I understand just fine understand that 90% of the time when people talk about pistol accuracy their completely full of ####. I hear it all the time that ______ and _____ isn't accurate yet the person shooting flat out can only group when they use a rest. Mechanical accuracy? Yeah a sig or a colt would be better however when your shooting without your rest you telling that the debilitating factor is the gun? I don't disagree that the brand name guns are MECHANICALLY more accurate however it's still a far cry from calling Norinco's paper weights and turning your nose up to guns that would make the difference between someone actually being able to afford to shoot vs sitting around wishing they could shoot. I no longer have any norcs however but have no problems buying another one since I kinda want another 226 but for the 2 times a year I'll shoot it because I prefer others why would I spend $1100+ vs $400? When that extra $700 could go to ammo to practice with my competition gun or even dam near buy another shadow?
Sorry if this post is kinda scatter minded I'm posting from my phone while waiting for a buddy to get stitches.
af_newbie2
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I disagree. It is better to buy a mid quality gun (like CZ 75, Glock or P226) and do more dry firing, than to buy a ####ty gun for $400 and spend more money plinking, IMHO.
Going to the range should be to test your skills not to learn how to shoot. You can learn how to shoot at home.
Anyway, looks like you have made up your mind, so no rational argument will convince you that you are making a mistake.
