Best place to buy a chronograph?

Yodave....I totally agree with you....once I have a good load im just looking for Extreme spread and such....for me it'll work I'm sure....Maybe not for everyone.....thats why no two woman are the same so we all have a chance!! haha
 
I have a Chrony Gamma Master which comes with the remote display and printer.
You don't need to bring the printer with you to the range If you plan on shooting less than 60 strings or so of 10 rounds each.
The head unit stores the memory and you can review and print off whatever you need later on.
As for others having less than repeatable performance in varying light conditions you can purchase the Chrony LED Lamps which are necessary if you are shooting indoors under fluorescent lights.
A rechargeable battery pack is also sold if you want to use your LED Lamps wherever there is no electricity.

The Chrony line is a good Canadian made product with great after sales service.
You can also send your Chrony in and upgrade it from an Alpha to a Beta or to a Gamma model.
As you can see my results are more than repeatable.
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You can also purchase a nice small carry bag for the Chrony from the factory right here in Canada.
The bag is visible on the top shelf on the right.
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Even though I would live to purchase an Oehler, price is dictating to me a gamma master.... Looks like you are having great success with yours thumper! I just wish they would add a third section like the Oehler so I could put my OCD to rest lol
 
Yodave, one thing I like about having speeds available as I am working up a load is it lets me know when I am coming up on Max pressure. Usually when you stop gaining speed, relatively speaking, per charge increase it means you are getting to max pressure. There are a few other variables, IE powder must match chambering, but it seems to work. My vote goes for Oehler, would like to try a CED though.
 
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You are right....and you are wrong.........

Your very unlikely to find that your shooting platform matches that of what was used to get the published data......rail guns vs pressure chambers vs test specimans.......

Also I and many others have eperienced 2 identical rifles, both fresh out of the box, shooting over 100 feet per second different with both factory ammo and the same reloads.....so using a chronograph to determine max charge isn't always the best way of doing things......now using one to find out the real values that your platform puts out....well that is their intended purpose.......but again YMMV
 
Um, I might not be explaining myself well here Yodave. Let's say as I increase each step by 1 grain I gain 100 fps, as I go along the gain will drop, when you aren't gaining any speed for an increase in charge weight you usually are maxed out. If not a little past max. Doesn't matter what books say, in that rifle it is usually past max. This gradual decrease in gain of speed for powder added along with other indicators, IE bolt lift, flat/missing primers etc. lets you know where you are at. Not really depending on chrono for max loads but just one more piece of the puzzle.
 
That has been my experience as well, back40sniper. You can almost guarantee that if you go much further, you will be getting little more velocity, but plenty more signs of pressure.

Ted
 
back40sniper said:
Um, I might not be explaining myself well here Yodave. Let's say as I increase each step by 1 grain I gain 100 fps, as I go along the gain will drop, when you aren't gaining any speed for an increase in charge weight you usually are maxed out. If not a little past max. Doesn't matter what books say, in that rifle it is usually past max. This gradual decrease in gain of speed for powder added along with other indicators, IE bolt lift, flat/missing primers etc. lets you know where you are at. Not really depending on chrono for max loads but just one more piece of the puzzle.
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that makes way more sense......your unburnt powder is adding to bullet weight and your velocity drops due to to short a barrel to burn all the powder........but I don't think I shoot anything with that short of a barrel or that slow a powder........
 
Well I'm not sure how everyone else does it but I use a chronograph as an integral part of load development. Just chronographing the most accurate load tells me nothing what-so-ever, except what that load is doing for velocity. Talk about load development with your head stuck in the sand........Seeing as how I don't have a pressure barrel for all my rifles, the chronograph is the next most important source of information. Consistency, velocity, velocity change/increment of powder, extreme jumps in velocity/ increment of powder, no increase in velocity/ increment of powder, decrease in velocity/ increment of powder increase. Certain powders being exceptionally better than others in that particular rifle, I have run into this unexpectedly. Playing with wildcats, it is an absolute necessity where there is no published data or the data is obsolete. If you use an accurate chronograph long enough and with enough calibers and cartridges, the information you can acquire is so much more than just velocity.

I have also done stuff like extend flash tubes and 2 powder loads and multiple flash holes and extended flash tubes with multiple flash holes, none of these experiments would have meant anything without a chronograph.
 
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Well now you have me thinking. Do I wait until next time I'm in the USA and have a Oehler 35P shipped to me down there and bring it back or do I buy the CED M2 up here?. Decisions decisions. :(
 
Mudduck said:
Well now you have me thinking. Do I wait until next time I'm in the USA and have a Oehler 35P shipped to me down there and bring it back or do I buy the CED M2 up here?. Decisions decisions. :(
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Hmm, I'll have to check into the costs at customs to bring one over myself. I have a US mailing address as I live on the US border.
 
Cleftwynd said:
Hmm, I'll have to check into the costs at customs to bring one over myself. I have a US mailing address as I live on the US border.
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Pending this isn't a stupid control item, you can bring it over for cost of taxes (GST here in Alberta) and duties if not made in N.A. If duties apply, there different fees depending on what it is. Overall, if you can pick it up at the border and your costs aren't that high to get to the boarder, it's often MUCH, MUCH cheaper.

I buy a lot of stuff from the states because I don't believe on padding pockets for middle "men". Car parts (toyota specifically) are 1/3 the cost. Less than half considering final costs for me. (300% markup by dealerships here, almost to the %). I refuse to pay that.
 
I can toss rocks across the border and hit US soil if I walk south a few miles, no cost at all for me really. International Fall MN and Fort Frances ON would be one town is not for the river that is the international border.
 
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I don't have one yet, but why can't you shoot targets at the same time?
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Because of the arguements of POI change. (weight on barrel changing harmonics, hell even the blast change at the tip of the barrel might come into play)

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I can toss rocks across the border and hit US soil if I walk south a few miles, no cost at all for me really. International Fall MN and Fort Frances ON would be one town is not for the river that is the international border.
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I'd buy everything from the states in your situation! I don't like to abandon Canada, but until distributors become realistic on their pricing, I won't/can't afford thier added costs. If I can drive 3 hours to the border to pick up ONE item and drive it back, they can surely do it cheaper for 100's or thousands. My opinion of course.

Try buying a CANADIAN made snowmobile in the states. It's cheaper for us CDN citizens to drive down to the states, buy it from a dealership and drive it back here, import it, etc then to buy from a CDN dealership. That's F***ed.

Acura MDX, Toyota's, etc. All the same deal.

What's worse is there is a figurehead in automotive sales that came out years ago and said it's this way (in his words) "Because Canadians are willing to pay more".

Stop being willing!

One last item to end my rant. Shipping INSIDE US is dirt cheap. Shipping across the border is expensive. (even higher now after Jan 2013). So don't let CDN shipping rates defer you. Look at the compariable US shipping rates to the border. Often these are even free after a 100-150$ value.

Final Thoughts:

I know this will piss off any CDN stores, but here's the kicker. Don't be pissed at the consumer. Be pissed at your distributor. Think outside the box to keep YOUR cost low, so you can keep your YOUR mark-up higher and still keep YOUR customers. I hate the shame going on for the last 6-8 years put on the consumer when they are trying to find the best deals. It should go the other way. Not to mention stand for 100% mark-up on items.

So for the rest of us, enjoy your US shopping and revel in the fact you can now buy more, shoot more, and pay less.

/rant.

(Just make sure your items aren't covered under the rediculous rules of the US exporting firearms, parts, etc)
 
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