This is how immigration use to work and should still be used. The problem is that the Turd has completely gone away from that formula and now lets in everyone and anyone in order to hit his absurd number of 500k immigrants a year. Doesn’t matter if these people bring nothing to the table just keep shipping them over by the plane loads.
Bill C-21 Passed in Senate - What now?
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This is how immigration use to work and should still be used. The problem is that the Turd has completely gone away from that formula and now lets in everyone and anyone in order to hit his absurd number of 500k immigrants a year. Doesn’t matter if these people bring nothing to the table just keep shipping them over by the plane loads.
Immigration is needed to fill lower wage jobs..fact. Have buddies who bash immigration. I ASK THEM why their kids or wife dont work local retail..answer...they don't pay enough. Solution ..regulated immigration.
Part of the problem is that some of the Canadian ultra right associate with Maga ideals where any non white immigration is a problem.
ANOTHER issue is that gangs get guns and that our government seems to find it easier to control the number of guns rather than the number of criminals.
Part of the problem is that some of the Canadian ultra right associate with Maga ideals where any non white immigration is a problem.
ANOTHER issue is that gangs get guns and that our government seems to find it easier to control the number of guns rather than the number of criminals.
Another part of the problem is that people today coddle their kids allowing them to have allowances ,cell phones etc well in to adult hood far beyond what they should.Why would they work with a cell plan,cable and money in their pocket.One of the reasons I got a part time job as a teenager was to buy the things I wanted to have like a motorcycle because my parents couldn t/wouldn t buy me one.Once you get a taste that working allows you to get the things you want you normally have no problem with working unless your basically worthless and lazy.
About Immigration anyone believing that these people are coming here to work low paying jobs is fooling themselves.These are industrious people and will work these jobs to start but they will eventually move on to better jobs and if not them their children will.They will reap the rewards for hard work and will all enjoy the benefits.These kids who won t work minimum wage jobs may be eventually working for them as time goes on and will have missed out at an opportunity to make something of themselves.They will be the ones on the bottom rung desperately hoping for a guaranteed income but what they don t know is there is already a guaranteed income of sorts it s called welfare lol.
I always laugh at someone who thinks they are too good to work a certain job but has no money in their pocket.One of my wife s nieces is like that, minimum wage job detailing car s at a dealer, bum of a husband and 2 kids.I told her about a school janitor s job that was posted making $10 an hour more with pension and benefits and she wasn t interested as basically the job was beneath her ,like a car detailer is a big step up lol.I guess you just can t help stupid people.
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rajczak_kashka
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It means the slimy Neo Marxists in Ottawa can sneak in a bunch more amendments through OIC to accompany C21 once its law. Who’s gonna fight it? We are living in a quasi dictatorship. I guess it’s great if your on the side of the dictator….for now!
We have our rights granted to us by because we are human beings, not by some group of people or a government. All governments can do is restrict or remove our rights, which is one of the first things governments do along with disarming the population when they are trying to push in country into communism. An unarmed population has no ability to resist a government that gives no craps about your rights, it's why the US 2nd Amendment is so demonized by governments and media around the world. If anyone thinks the government passed C-21 because it's what their constituents or majority of Canadians want, they're delusional. Especially after they had to lie to and gaslight the people, and ignore multiple testimonies from police chiefs that this bill does nothing to stop crime. This isn't a time to argue or fight among ourselves, we need to stand together and let them know we will not stand for our rights and property to be unjustly removed. This literally threatens the livelihood of some people, and although I am not calling for this, wars have definitely been fought for less.
What utter nonsense. There is no truth in any of this. Spout all you want about this delusional rhetoric there is to support your position in any democracy on the planet. Democracies are set up.under the rules agreed to by their populations via their elected representative called laws.
We get out of this mess by using our vote. No other way.
Merry Christmas
Bob
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So says the RCMP troll that joined in 2013, has one transaction, but lots of verbal diarrhea to spew from his masters.
If correct, you are a shame to all Albertans my friend.
Join Martha Stewart's Better Home & Gardens social media. Should be more up your alley.
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The only delusional one here is you BOB.
If you think there is a democracy in Canada, you are a damn fool.
30% of Canadas vote and the Liberals get in. Then Sing humps his leg and screws all Canadians.
Yes vote, vote Pierre Poilievre. Then pray!
Actually, this is the ideological basis for the constitution of the most powerful democracy in the world, like it or not. The founding fathers were correct in that the ugly truth that we civilized folk like to gloss over is that our rights are dictated by force and deterrent. Now in the first world that thankfully is not an issue. However there are basic rights that should be a given just by being a member of the Homo Sapiens club. Right to life, food, security, etc. Just because our politicians like to refer to rights as "privileges" (ie; Bill Blair and his nonsense) and we have a weak-ass constitution that basically allows the sitting government to pull the Uno reverse card on what should be our rights, doesn't mean we should tolerate or accept it simply because "it's what we do in a democracy". So what he said is not nonsense at all, but in fact has many precedents over the course of human history. The founding fathers of the United States were uniquely wise to such things.
Not to mention, it's been proven time and again that this sitting government simply does not represent the will of the people. If democracy is based upon consensus, then where does that currently leave us? What does it mean when the vote of one Canadian is worth more than another's due to the province/riding they vote and reside in? It's abundantly clear that this system is flawed and many have lost confidence in it, and have every right to.
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I came to this thread to read about C-21 and it again came down to how we fix Canada.
There is no fixing. It's done and gone. Whatever they are creating in its place is starting to resemble a dystopian fascist hellhole (alliance of corporations and bureaucracy to suppress the freedom of individual citizens for the benefit of governing elites).
I see people are griping about immigration. The system that worked just fine for 30 years is now being replaced by "students". You can argue about reasons, IMO they need younger people, in their 20s, not 30s or 40s to flip the age pyramid back.
Two millions per annum of "south asian students" who are filling all minimum wage jobs across the country is not a sign of malicious "replacement" by libs. It's just elites need more wage slaves to prop the ponzi scheme of "free healthcare and fair pensions".
There is no fixing. It's done and gone. Whatever they are creating in its place is starting to resemble a dystopian fascist hellhole (alliance of corporations and bureaucracy to suppress the freedom of individual citizens for the benefit of governing elites).
I see people are griping about immigration. The system that worked just fine for 30 years is now being replaced by "students". You can argue about reasons, IMO they need younger people, in their 20s, not 30s or 40s to flip the age pyramid back.
Two millions per annum of "south asian students" who are filling all minimum wage jobs across the country is not a sign of malicious "replacement" by libs. It's just elites need more wage slaves to prop the ponzi scheme of "free healthcare and fair pensions".
So, in the end, for now at least... What's the immediate impact of Bill C-21?
All semis are banned?
Only the sale of new ones is banned? And what is in-country remains legal? Or like pistols, what you have you keep and that's all?
What's affected by C-21? This has also been blurred over the multiple discussions and/or iterations, potential amendments that did/didn't get added.
Getting back on track to the thread subject might be an interesting idea as well.
Thanks!
DanO
All semis are banned?
Only the sale of new ones is banned? And what is in-country remains legal? Or like pistols, what you have you keep and that's all?
What's affected by C-21? This has also been blurred over the multiple discussions and/or iterations, potential amendments that did/didn't get added.
Getting back on track to the thread subject might be an interesting idea as well.
Thanks!
DanO
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Good point , I was thinking the same myself . How does C-21 affect the long guns that were banned under Trudeau's previous OIC , and have any more long guns been added to the list of prohibited under C-21 . Are pinned mags going to be grandfathered in , or will these mags now become prohibited for possession and use ?
I just joined to piss you off
I wonder how many of the commenters here will be retracting their statements regarding democratic election come 2026 when Pierre is elected; and how many will be disappointed that many of the policies and laws brought in by LPC are not reversed in the years after.
And yeah, Martha Stewart is awesome!
https://gunsmagazine.com/april-foolery/breaking-news-martha-stewart-responsible-for-ammo-shortage/
You guys seriously need to educate yourselves. Read the legislation and you will understand what it states. Unfortunately, much of the "meat" regarding the specific application of C21's components and other announced initiatives (eg. mags), is currently missing and likely won't be announced in the amplifying Regulations until shortly before they come into force.
All future designs of semi-auto, centerfire long-gun capable of accepting a detachable mag holding more than 6 rounds, will be prohibited and will never come to market. In other words, a "freeze" on all semi-auto long gun design in Canada as well as any new designs originating out of the US or Europe.
All current designs of semi-auto, centerfire long-gun capable of accepting a detachable mag holding more than 6 rounds, that are not already Prohibited by name under the May 2020 OIC, or subsequently Prohibited by the RCMP in the FRT, remain legal to purchase, own and use. Most semi-auto, centerfire rifles and carbines with detachable mags that are currently still legal will most likely become Prohibited in the next few months. The Lieberal plan is to reconstitute the Canadian Firearms Advisory Council, stack it again with anti-gun zealots and have them recommend which of the remaining semi-auto, centerfire long-guns should be banned by OIC. The Lieberal government will then pass such an OIC, happily blaming the CFAC for the decision to ban the SKS and other currently legal designs.
The magazine "ban" will come into force through Regulation. The intent of the Lieberals, as I understand it, is to make any pinned/riveted mag with a capacity over 5 rounds illegal. If a specific 5-rounds-only mag is available for a firearm (like STANAG/AR15 mags), then you are expected to use only those and ditch all of your pinned mags at your own expense as being caught with them will result in a criminal charge (possession of a prohibited device). Mags must be capable of holding only 5 rounds and must be impossible to alter to hold more rounds. This throws into question what everyone is supposed to do in the event that there is not manufactured 5-round mag for their particular firearm? Presumably you could put an internal block inside an over-capacity steel or aluminum mag and have the Baseplate welded onto the Mag Body so that disassembly is impossible without a grinder, but even that is not certain to meet the legal standard, whatever that is. What about PMags? Can the Follower be blocked to 5 rounds and then epoxy the Baseplate to the Body of the mag? Will that be sufficient? Nobody knows.... and the Regulations likely won't make much clear, resulting in many questions. This change to the law could make many owners with lots of mags into criminals if it doesn't provide details in a timely manner and provide enough time for owners to have their legacy magazines adapted to the new standard. There will be no "grandfathering" of currently-riveted mags. They will have to be adapted to the new standards (whatever those are), or destroyed at the owner's expense.
There is a ton of other stuff in C21 relating to the beefed up Yellow and Red Flag laws. Basically, they are now saying that if you have ever been involved in a Domestic Dispute, your PAL/RPAL is in serious jeopardy - presumably when it comes time to renew, if not beforehand. Ever had a Peace Bond? Prepare to sell off your guns, as you are likely going to lose your PAL under the new rules for Intimate Partner Violence (IPV). And on and on it goes.
Are you on record, on-llne, opposing Justin Trudeau or the Lieberal Party of Kanada? Wait for it, as the future does not bode well for dissenters....
Except for me. My family tree is traced back to the same location I currently live. Long before Canada ever existed. The Jesuit priests wrote about my ancestors in the late 1600s at first European contact.
