Black Badge question

My guess is anybody immigrating to Canada with a BB in his pocket doesn't have to do the course the same for guy's coming to the Nats...they already meet the requirement for their respective country!

I believe that before the RCPM members apply to ERT it's strongly suggested that they have a BB course....at least it was like that before.

It's pretty simple take the course shoot IPSC don't and we are still going to shoot IPSC it's that simple....and yes I have instructed the new course, oh and I'm also military! my brother was RCMP.... ;)
 
7.62mm said:
It was my understanding that Canada is one of the only Countries with the Black Badge Course requirements:confused:
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For the life of me I don't remember which country's had a sort of BB but I'm pretty sure they are others.....I just don't fell like asking the one guy that know for sure.....the Dark side....if you know what I mean
 
Well.......just forward me your user name and password, and I will go and ask.....LOL!

There are well over 100 Countries with active IPSC Shooters.....there are only a couple with the requirement of the BB Course.....AFAIK......BTW.....I pulled these #'s out of my buttocks, butt I am pretty sure I am close!
 
7.62mm said:
Well.......just forward me your user name and password, and I will go and ask.....LOL!

There are well over 100 Countries with active IPSC Shooters.....there are only a couple with the requirement of the BB Course.....AFAIK......BTW.....I pulled these #'s out of my buttocks, butt I am pretty sure I am close!
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I believe it's more like 83 country's sat the present :bump:

I don't really remember and that could have change just ask the Director or global village.....but either way why does it matter what the other country's do??

In this country the only requirement is the BB...it cannot get any simpler then this.
 
Well, the whole POINT is, that a visiting IPSC member from another country(Region), that does NOT have a requirement for a Black Badge Course, can come and shoot here, but if they immigrate here, in order to become a member of IPSC Ontario, or BC or whatever, they have to take a Black Badge Course!

That is the whole point that is being made here!

They are safe enough to shoot in their own country, safe enough to come here and shoot a Nationals, but NOT safe enough to become a member of IPSC Canada, or Ontario etc. etc....
 
Hmm I wonder if Jerome did the course when he moved to BC from the Philippines? I doubt it.

I'm not asking for it to be removed, I was suggesting that BB instructors be given some leeway (pun intended dude) to act at their own discretion in the necessity of certain people to do the BB course.
Another question, as we accept other regions members to shoot IPSC what about people from IDPA, both Canadians or members from other countries. Would they be accepted at a match?
 
As somebody who will have to take his black badge again.. since I've let it lapse... It would be nice to be able to just go through the drills and get it done.. But I guess it will give me an excuse to be "sociable"
 
Slavex said:
Another question, as we accept other regions members to shoot IPSC what about people from IDPA, both Canadians or members from other countries. Would they be accepted at a match?
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I think you already know the answer to that.

Besides...it's not the same thing. If someone comes from another IPSC region, they are members...they contribute with membership fees to their region. Not so with xDPA members.

Many matches sell out...if you don't get a slot (as a paying member) because a bunch of IDPA members signed up...how happy are you going to be?

Membership has its' privileges...
 
Truthfully, I would of joined IPSC Ontario a long time ago if I could shoot their matches without the BB course.

Its nice to know that IPSC members from other countries are exempted from the BB requirement, but experienced IDPA shooters are not. Someone weird treatment from a 'safety' perspective. Are foreign IPSC shooters exempted simply because they pay IPSC membership fees....doesn't seem very safe to me.

And while I always favour more training if needed, the benefits I obtained from the BB were only incremental above what I already knew.
 
Quigley said:
Besides...it's not the same thing. If someone comes from another IPSC region, they are members...they contribute with membership fees to their region. Not so with xDPA members.
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IPSC canada will not let "joe blow" buy a membership unless they have completed the "BB"... so it is a moot point for the idpa members since they would not be able to shoot matches anyway. "if" they waved the "BB" requirment for experienced shooters they would also have to readjust thier membership policies.
 
pepsicola said:
IPSC canada will not let "joe blow" buy a membership unless they have completed the "BB"... so it is a moot point for the idpa members since they would not be able to shoot matches anyway. "if" they waved the "BB" requirment for experienced shooters they would also have to readjust thier membership policies.
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I was responding the Slavex...IPSC doesn't make members from other regions pay an additional membership to shoot in another region...I assumed the same logic would apply to his question about IDPA members.

In any event...it really is a moot point because not much chance it's ever going to happen...
 
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Slavex said:
Hmm I wonder if Jerome did the course when he moved to BC from the Philippines? I doubt it.

I'm not asking for it to be removed, I was suggesting that BB instructors be given some leeway (pun intended dude) to act at their own discretion in the necessity of certain people to do the BB course.
Another question, as we accept other regions members to shoot IPSC what about people from IDPA, both Canadians or members from other countries. Would they be accepted at a match?
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ahh,...I see what you mean. I assume we have some discretion in our own provinces. We started breaking up the course in NB, having the test review and gear review earlier in the week. Then Saturday all day on the range,.etc....then sunday to finish up. It can be a long day, or short day in respect to necessity of the students. I think we take into account the background of students. Someone with LE or military background,...or a job that requires firearms usage,...we usually have the expectation they have basic safety ingrained. This is not always the case. So, yeah I think there can be some leeway, but everyone should be happy about putting rounds downrange!:50cal:
 
7.62mm said:
Can a USPSA Member shoot an IPSC match in Canada?
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In theory, IPSC is INTERNATIONAL, isn't it? And USPSA membership includes IPSC membership, so, in theory, IPSC Canada would be denying IPSC members to shoot...

IDPA - membership is purchased and done thru central US point of entry, so, Canadian IDPA members are getting membership in US.. it's more centralized.
 
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