Black Bear takes Moose Calf

Preditor prey relationship..all creatures have to eat. Maybe there was somthing wrong with this calf... something undetectable to us humans and mother nature said "nope" you won't live to reproduce. Just my 2 cents worth.
 
M12shooter said:
Preditor prey relationship..all creatures have to eat. Maybe there was somthing wrong with this calf... something undetectable to us humans and mother nature said "nope" you won't live to reproduce. Just my 2 cents worth.

Lets not start with the "they only take the sick" stuff.
 
MNR: Still think the spring bear hunt cancellation is a good plan? Required viewing for all the bear huggers that landed us in this mess.
 
Longbow said:
A natural response. However neither sorrow nor pity exist other than in human emotion

You are very right, but I find it odd that hunters who have no problem killing bears or killing moose, including calf moose where allowed, seemed to be angry with the bear for killing the moose calf. I think that we humans have more in common with the bear, but can feel for the moose. Although I did not find it pleasant to watch this, I thank the original poster for sharing.
 
Yeah.

It pisses me off.
all the more reason to bring back the spring bear hunt. They are getting out of hand where I am from too. I live in the most bear dense area in Ontario. Some big buggers up this way!
 
We should hunt bears. But not becuase they kill moose calves. We should hunt them because we utilize the meat and hides and the population can sustain it and reduce human conflicts. Bears gotta eat and I don't begrudge them one morsel of venison. But black bear is my wife's favorite wild game meat and so they've got to die.
 
gth said:
Lets not start with the "they only take the sick" stuff.
Guess I should have not touched on the subject of natural selection... just that I have never bumbed into a moose wearing eye glasses, hard of hearing, with diabetes or cardio pulmonary disease, etc... Lets all band together now and kill any black bear that's not making an honest living from some out of the way landfill.. really!
 
gth said:
Lets not start with the "they only take the sick" stuff.
They take whattever they can catch!!
Weak, sick, slow, unsuspecting, whatever, if they can get it, so be it.
Same as the pics of the wolves and the moose.
Feel sorry for the moose?
HELL NO!:runaway:
It's what predators do, us included.
We have no more special rights to hunt and kill than any other predator, and if someone thinks that wolves and bears are crruel, just read the papers!!:eek:
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Black Bears are/were pretty good at cleaning up the deer fawns on Vancouver Island and the few wolves to the rap. Unfortunately the adaptable bears are able to move on to different food sources when the deer are diminished and are still doing too well here.
 
bisonhd said:
Black Bears are/were pretty good at cleaning up the deer fawns on Vancouver Island and the few wolves to the rap. Unfortunately the adaptable bears are able to move on to different food sources when the deer are diminished and are still doing too well here.
Called a "preditor pit" by biologists and game managers... when preditors are able to exhaust one food source and switch to another. Top preditors do this... including us humans. This is where hunting and trapping is such a valuable tool. Culling of preditors by game managers... ie: taking out a few wolf packs to save a threatened ungulate herd... is a last resort and difficult to get past the folks wearing the rose coloured glasses.
 
Back in the late 80's or early 90's all the Greenpeacer types fought hard to close down bear hunting here. They failed to shut it down, however they no doubt influenced the "must recover edible portions . . ." law to come into place. At the time I must admit I had problems with the shoot'em, skin'em and kick the carcass over the bank mentallity, however, now on the Island there are far fewer bears actually killed because not everyone is into bear meat. There is now an obvious overpopulation.

I'm no educated, government biologist, but it's pretty clear to me, the above has influenced the great decline in Island deer populations. Also, I often kick over dried up bear droppings in the summer, and almost always discovered deer hair and tiny little hooves.
 
northwoodslivin said:
Yeah.

It pisses me off.
all the more reason to bring back the spring bear hunt. They are getting out of hand where I am from too. I live in the most bear dense area in Ontario. Some big buggers up this way!
X2 I agree bring the spring bear hunt back!
 
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