Black Bears can be Dangerous!!

Come on I have a few grey hairs but I don't look that old... ;)

What do you mean the clip is gone?

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I just checked it out it is gone I'll have to try and reload it dang that took like an hour to load the first time...

Sorry that your viewing pleasures are not up and running right now you could check out some of my other shooting vid's if your lucky you'll come across some that show how the OPO can shoot... :D

Oh man this is good humour the ignored one had to call for help... :D
 
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sheephunter said:
Actually the numbers I'm quoting are a result of tracking population trends for nearly 100 years and applying those trends to a population study done in 1999 and extrapilating the current populations. Not as accurate as counting each bear but more accurate than anecdotal evidence. My point being, there are lots of bears in BC.......just not 1/2 of Canada's population. In truth, the 443k number is a bit dated and may well be closer to 500k. I haven't seen the research on those trends but suspect they somewhat mirror what's going on in BC.
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Somethign to keep in mind is that bears were heavily hunted/killed up until the 1980's and BC hunters peaked in the 1980's, too. At one point any bear that was seen by a rancher was a dead bear, and hunters shot quite a few bears as well.

BC hunters have declined form about 130 000 to about 80 000 in present times.

Bear hunting/ killing by Co's and farmers or ranchers was heavily targeted by Eco-Weenies trying to convince the general public that they were endangered all through the 1990's and it continues. Extrapolation from the last 100 years may not be accurate- up until abotu 30 years ago, most bears got whacked on sight...

most hunters don't even hunt bears, and I've only noticed a slight upswing in bear hunting among hunters in the last few years, and mostly it is because of the intraweb...Hunters that never bothered with bears have become a bit more interested, since they realize they can get out in the spring and have some fun, and bear meat can be pretty good, too.

Point is, lots of hunters have been "brainwashed" to think that killing a bear is wrong, and they are just now waking up and Bears haven't been hunted hard for many years.

bear recruitment in most of the studies seem to be around 6-8%, but in light of the factors of less hunters, less "problem" bears being killed and an enviroment of "don't hunt bears" I coudl see the percentage growing a fair bit higher.

I don't know and don't care if BC has 50% of the black bears and ?% of the grizzlies in Canada, but I do know that bear populations have exploded in just about every region of BC and that it's hard to NOT see a bear on an off pavement excursion.
 
Camp Cook said:
What do you mean the clip is gone?

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I just checked it out it is gone I'll have to try and reload it dang that took like an hour to load the first time...

Sorry that your viewing pleasures are not up and running right now you could check out some of my other shooting vid's if your lucky you'll come across some that show how the OPO can shoot... :D

Oh man this is good humour the ignored one had to call for help... :D
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all I get is this

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Point is, lots of hunters have been "brainwashed" to think that killing a bear is wrong, and they are just now waking up and Bears haven't been hunted hard for many years.
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not only that but once the laws changed over that you had to take the edible portions out of the bush I noticed lot of hide hunters giving up on it as well as trappers, and again the eco freaks screaming fur is BAD didnt help either seeing bear hides werent top of the line for clothing etc
 
Just to clarify some things I said. When I said black bears were not known as protecting their cubs, I was thinking in terms of "protecting," meaning protecting to death, if necessary. I didn't mean they would just take off and leave the cubs. Here is what I wrote about six pages back;

One bush homesteader I knew killed a cub every fall, to get the fat from it. He told me that in twenty years of shooting a cub every fall, he never once had to kill the mother. He said, "Oh, they huff and they puff, and they chop at you, but I just tell them, go on, get out of here."

As I said, he killed a cub every fall and never once had to kill the mother, to protect himself. He told me the mother would come within feet of him, snapping her jaws, but he said they would never attack.
This was from an experienced old bushman, so I consider it extremely good evidence of the action of the mother bear, when a person shoots and takes a cub.
However, just think what would happen if one of these modern hunters who are scared stiff of bears, was in the position he was. The mother bear would be shot and our hero would have a great story to tell of how he was attacked!
This is why it is so hard to get honest evidence about the danger of bears in the bush.
 
dang it! but if it keeps you from being handed with federal charges it's probably a good move!

now, let's get back to them nasty black bears...








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here, we see how they will hunt in small packs for humans!

note how the bear on the right has it's ears back...a sure sign of aggression...usually shown when encountering ATVs!


hahahahahaa
 
most hunters don't even hunt bears
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We didn't even really think they were edible when i was growing up hunting - we thought they were just hunted for trophy. It wasn't till someone introduced us to bear meat that we thought about hunting them at all.

Current logging practices of the last decade has also played a role of course. There's a lot more food - and bear breeding habits are directly tied to food. More food means bears breed younger, and are more likely to have a larger 'litter'.

Most reasonable estimates put the population over 200,000 and the anecdotal evidence of hunters in many areas would seem to support that strongly. There is, of course, no way to know for sure - but whatever the actual number is, the bottom line is there's a whorin' pile of bears in them thar woods and that's the truth.


Like i said earlier tho - regardless of what the bear's intention was, you're doing the bear and the people a favour putting a good healthy fear of man into 'em early on. It's good for the bears and it's good for us for them to be scared of us.

BTW - most researchers and biologists feel the whole 'stomping around, popping and tough guy' act is actually a FEAR response. Bears are trying to say 'hey - don't mess with me! Just leave me alone!" Kind of like a yapping dog that runs when you enter the yard. But - they can turn into attacks as well.
 
There only pretending to be eating grass. It's just a ploy to sneak within charging range.

Back in the fir trade days, bear hides were used as wrapping paper to protect valuable hides in transit.

In the 80's, we use to wack a heck of a lot of the wormy things over here, when you had the option of kicking a particularly bad one over the bank. The population never seemed to decrease. Many guys don't bother shooting them anymore which is too bad, for pretty much every bear scat kicked over this time of year contains little tiny deer hooves.
 
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gatehouse and bone collector are right I just googled it and the april 2008 estimates are : 18,000 + grizzlies , and 160,000 + black bears , and growing exponentially, complete with pictures of multiple grizz walking down a highway, and so on , also it said that BC has roughly 1/4 of all the blackbears in canada and didn't find anything on the percentage of grizz in bc compared to rest of it's canadian range :)
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There are several sources (including MoELP) that say BC has about half of the grizzly bears in Canada. Population estimates are from 12K (greenies) to 26K, actual numbers may vary since it is really hard to get the bears to stand still long enough to count em all ;)


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I got a bear story to share . about 3 week ago I was at work at a crushing plant in Coquitlam BC. i was coming down the stairs of the plant when I saw this bear at the garbage barrel 15ft away from me. He was small, he stood about mid thigh on me anyway I tried to scare him off by yelling and raising my arms and waving. He then stopped what he was doing and came running straight at me well I stood there and when he got close I booted him as hard as I could in the jaw (good thing I was wearing my steel toed boots) after that he ran away. It seemed like right thing to do at the time. Now if he had been any larger than he was I wouldn't have tried to scare him off I would have backed slowly up the stairs. The thing is when he came running at it kinda reminded me of a dog whose happy to see you and he's coming to get a snack. I mean that he wasn't growing and his mouth was closed. Maybe someone been feeding him
 
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Two years ago ROA and I saw a nice sow with 2 young cubs. We spooked them and they ran to the treeline. I figured the cubs would tree so I approached them directly. The sow initially stood at the base of the tree the cubs were in, but as I got closer she moved away. She never once displayed any aggression. I guess we got within 20 yards of her and the tree those cubs were in. Took several pictures then moved off and left them alone.

TBart that must have been a scary situation getting so close to a pack of 3 bears like that.
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He was small, he stood about mid thigh on me anyway I tried to scare him off by yelling and raising my arms and waving. He then stopped what he was doing and came running strait at me
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With black bears, it seems the younger ones (and older sows past breeding age) are the more aggressive group. Middle age and older ones got that old by learning to give humans a wide berth. But often, younger bears seem more eager to pick a fight.

Hererro speculated that it's due to the 'hierarchy' of bears, especially in densely populated areas. Big bears tend to seek out and beat the crap out of smaller medium sized bears. Those bears will seek to bully an even smaller one. So maybe smaller ones will go after humans/dogs to 'get their own back' so to speak. Certainly a lot of the stories we track involve younger bears.


Sounds like it was a good day to be wearing the steel tipped boots :D
 
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*snicker* Ahhh did the embarassment of looking foolish get to you? Still laughing at your overt fear of a grazing bear, here and by the replies in my Inbox I ain't alone!!!
 
Come on guys, there has already been too much said about the video, etal. What is the point in trying to bring it up again.
But I forgot. You guys that made fun of it are all perfect little angels, aren't you?
 
H4831 said:
Come on guys, there has already been too much said about the video, etal. What is the point in trying to bring it up again.
But I forgot. You guys that made fun of it are all perfect little angels, aren't you?
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Nope, it ain't over not done by a long shot. The time where I was willing to let bygones be bygones are long past. A certain "expert" decided to berate and mock me as an inexperienced noobie, mercilessly on a post where he decided to stick his nose in. To have an "expert" then post a video of a "dangerous" bear that was obviously dangerous only to the clover in the ditch all the while squeaking like a frightened school girl is as Master Card says - priceless.
 
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Come on guys, there has already been too much said about the video, etal. What is the point in trying to bring it up again.
But I forgot. You guys that made fun of it are all perfect little angels, aren't you?
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H4831, You're forgetting that EVERYONE on this forum is apparently a bear expert ;)
I agree, let it rest people and let's move on to productive issues. CC has experience in the bush and with bears, it appears that what he saw didn't come across in the video, who really has the right to criticize?
 
Omega said:
*snicker* Ahhh did the embarassment of looking foolish get to you? Still laughing at your overt fear of a grazing bear, here and by the replies in my Inbox I ain't alone!!!
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Actually no...

What it was is I decided not to lower myself too your level even though I am not a supposed professional outdoorsman like yourself.

That's right I know who you are and have known from your first post and have played your game all along.

I feel that your total lack of professionalism when you get onto hunting forums is a disgrace to those that are true professionals like your partner who I see you dragged into this thread along with you.

Pathetic absolutely pathetic...
 
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