Black rifle questions ... Help me get into this

Tikka223 said:
So people keep saying "just get an AR" if your doing courses and 3-gun. Is this advice just because of the price-point or are they really that much more competitive and faster to "run and gun"?
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Well, a good quality AR is cheaper than the alternatives, and don't have any of the issues you find with some of the other rifles. Something like a Daniel Defence, Noveske, or LMT is cheaper cheaper than a Tavor, XCR, or an ACR, and the "teething" issues have been ironed out a long time ago...

Also, I think the AR is so customizable, even with the "limited" selection of aftermarket parts (limited compared to the states at least)... You can still customize it to suite you almost 100%... Can you swap out the grip of a Tavor?

ARs are also really easy to maintain, if something breaks you can simply swap it out easily... Just hope on to Wolverine or Brownells, and you're g2g
 
Is the AR really much more competitive or faster, I don’t know, but I do know the AR is a proven platform.

I can say maybe a Tavor is just as good or maybe an ACR is faster or maybe a XCR is more competitive, but I don’t really know. I haven’t nor do I know anyone who has run competitively with these platforms. I do know that the AR is fast and competitive and that most competition shooters use the AR for this reason.

Does that make sense?

As a side note I have handled a Tavor and a XCR-M and would take my AR over them personally.
 
justinchow said:
Something like a good Daniel Defence or Noveske will run you half the cost, and will run and shoot great... plus you will have the extra cash for more ammo and accessories!
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I've never seen a Noveske at half the cost of an XCR/ACR/Tavor. Any details on where you'd find one. I do agree a DD looks like a great AR and is my foremost runner as I near my first purchase.
 
If in Canada the AR-15 platform was non-restricted then I would say it is probably [one of] the best black rifle platform to get into. Mainly because the platform is an industry giant, it is solid (had the bugs worked out), and there are numerous manufacturers and a plethora of add-ons and aftermarket toys.

However, being restricted, you are limited to use only on an approved range, you cannot even legally load it in your own home, so you basically (imho) can actually do very little with it in comparison to a non-restricted rifle.
This fact alone is why I won't go AR and why I went with non-restricted black rifles instead, even if I had to pay a little bit more (see below). I live in the sticks and I can legally shoot the NRs on our property, which to me is a huge positive and worth the extra few hundred bucks.

Regarding the comments about price. Stating that a good DD is half the price of the XCR is false.
A DD M4 v3 at Wolverine is $1665
An XCR-L at Wolverine is $2350, that's only $685 difference.
Plus when I bought my XCR I got an extra 10% off (not Wolv), so drop that difference almost in half again.
And the XCR at that price has less plastic than the DD, removable folding vs fixed sights, imho better ergonomics, etc.

My recommendation, if you have no issues with being tied to only range shooting, then go to a store and pick each platform up and see what you like better. Otherwise go non-restricted.
 
deegee said:
However, being restricted, you are limited to use only on an approved range, you cannot even legally load it in your own home, so you basically (imho) can actually do very little with it in comparison to a non-restricted rifle.
This fact alone is why I won't go AR and why I went with non-restricted black rifles instead, even if I had to pay a little bit more (see below). I live in the sticks and I can legally shoot the NRs on our property, which to me is a huge positive and worth the extra few hundred bucks.
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In regards to loading a firearm in your own home, there is no legal difference between a non-restricted and a restricted firearm. You are allowed to load a firearm if you have a legal reason to do so.

Not to mention, I am not too sure why this is something that you would point out as a negative or positive aspect of a certain firearm.
 
Mirk said:
In regards to loading a firearm in your own home, there is no legal difference between a non-restricted and a restricted firearm. You are allowed to load a firearm if you have a legal reason to do so.

Not to mention, I am not too sure why this is something that you would point out as a negative or positive aspect of a certain firearm.
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Sorry, the FA says that restricted firearms can only be loaded at the range where you are shooting the firearm. This comes from the two facts that it can only be loaded for actual use, and it can only be fired at a range. There is no "legal reason" to fire a restricted firearm at any other location than a range.
And self defense is not a "legal reason".
And predator control storage and discharge relates to non-restricted only as well.
In the case of an AR you can load the magazine elsewhere, but that is it.
Anything else, you can and will be charged (if caught).
This has already been recently discussed in another thread here on CGN.

A non-restricted can also be stored (eg. at home) with just a trigger lock or cable lock or pull the bolt.
A restricted must be locked in a cabinet, container, or room.

One simple example is that I like to cycle a few rounds after a full cleaning and reassembly. Or if I get a new mag, etc.
Typically I will use snap-caps for this as they are safer, but in some cases you may need a proper round to test cycling (differences in weight to a snap-cap etc.). Legally you cannot load live rounds at home on a restricted.
 
Moparman1303 said:
Hey guys, where can i find companies in Canada who sell AR uppers?
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crafm.com located in Montreal. they ship canada wide, and have just about everything "AR" you might want, including complete uppers in stock. Just call them and they may be able to help you out..

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