Black Rifle Reclassification?

No compromise! We all need to draw a line in the sand and defend our rights, or they will slowly pick away at them until we have none.
 
I'm suspecting the NR black rifle are on the radar to go up next.
According to the global news document on AR-15 document "certain firearms manufacturers are migrating M16/AR15 technology to sporting firearm." And the concern raise was "less accurate copied will not be captured by the regulations" Which can be interpreted anywhere from having similiar operating mechanism, share similar AR-15 accessories to any black center-fire rifle.
ie If scar wasn't banned due to ability to take machine gun lower, they could've gone after it's arms of operations or trigger mechanism as variant of AR-15

As for Tavor, FS2000, they may try to expand the definition of bullpup so that it would be prohibited.

Long story short, if you own a firearm, you are already a target. If you don't have one, they will go after your kitchen knives in 10 years.
 
Anyone have reasonably accurate data on how many ARs there are in Canada? It seems to me the quantity is substantial but I've never seen any hard numbers.
 
The article you quoted says specifically in the AR family what they are targeting. It is under "registrations affected".

I'm suspecting the NR black rifle are on the radar to go up next.
According to the global news document on AR-15 document "certain firearms manufacturers are migrating M16/AR15 technology to sporting firearm." And the concern raise was "less accurate copied will not be captured by the regulations" Which can be interpreted anywhere from having similiar operating mechanism, share similar AR-15 accessories to any black center-fire rifle.
ie If scar wasn't banned due to ability to take machine gun lower, they could've gone after it's arms of operations or trigger mechanism as variant of AR-15

As for Tavor, FS2000, they may try to expand the definition of bullpup so that it would be prohibited.

Long story short, if you own a firearm, you are already a target. If you don't have one, they will go after your kitchen knives in 10 years.
 
Our problem, and one of the most pressing issues that needs to be addressed, is that the verification lab themselves makes the determination of what is a "variant" and what "easily convertible" means.

I'm sure there's a genius mechanic/engineer who can "easily convert" a Honda Civic into an ultralight fixed-wing airplane. Just because it's easy for him doesn't mean 95% of the rest of the population would consider it easy.


Back in WWII smiths were converting Lee-Enfield rifles to full auto. No gun is safe.


i totally agree and we all know whats on the rcmp mind if it was up to them they would disarms us all as long as they have guns
 
Some around here are bring a little naĂŻve when they think that the RCMP cannot reclassify a firearm simply because it's not a CA.

NEWS FLASH: If you have a black rifle, and you want to keep it for the rest of your life, you need to get your arse off the computer chair and get involved. Buy a membership from one or both of the Orgs. Call your MP and explain that the recent reclassification is unacceptable. Share all this reclassification nonsense on FB, Twitter, etc..........

To sit back and do nothing is to condone this injustice. REMEMBER: 10,000 Canadians became criminals overnight. Don't allow yourself to join their ranks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Paul
 
Well said Paul,
This event should be troubling and deserves solidarity between ALL firearms owners. Get busy folks, get your wives and family on board with petitions and letters. If your dumb enough to think this doesn't affect you think again.
 
Make no mistake, multiple vendors are saying there are 20 rifles under review for reclassification as of this moment. The current prohibitions are the tip of the iceberg if you think you're safe, or if you're wondering your rifle is next. The time to act is now, and every subsequent reclassification that follows needs to be fought with the same vigor by the entire firearms community.
 
the tar would not be easy for them to take i think since its not on the prohib list and semi auto receivers and not easily converted

"Not easily converted" has nothing to do with it. It is not very "easy" for Swiss Arms owners to convert their rifles. It can be said that everything can be converted if you start machining and manufacturing. The premiss for conversion is totally wrong. Since its possible every Canadian can be tempted to steal, then why wait? Just start locking everyone up because they can be converted to pursue some kind of criminal activity sometime somewhere. Laws based on some possiblility, possibly happening maybe, are garbage and should be thrown out. The current Firearms Act is an example of a garbage Liberal law.
 
the tar would not be easy for them to take i think since its not on the prohib list and semi auto receivers and not easily converted

That's why the RCMP were pushing the Minister of Public Safety to have have it prohibited by order in council.
They have said as much in the released freedom of information disclosure.
 
The whole 'easy' conversion thing is a red herring now - the Swiss guns are being considered 550's because there's a rail grove cut in them and the 858's are being prohibbed because of a small cut in the receiver - neither of which makes them meet the (court) definition of easy to convert, or for that matter converted full autos. With the 858 the RCMP is saying that the cut makes them convertible "in a relatively short time" with "relative ease" there is no evidence that these were assembled as FA guns, or could be without obtaining specialized parts and multiple further machining operations. So effectively, this is their play. They're rolling the dice and seeing if anyone has the balls to stand them down. If they get their butts kicked on this, they'll wait until the shiny pony and/or Tommy the Commie is running the show, and start again. I don't know if we can end it here - but new firearms legislation is something that might put the 'gun issue' back on the back burner for all political parties.
 
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the tar would not be easy for them to take i think since its not on the prohib list and semi auto receivers and not easily converted

Ahem...

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Now how long would that 'conversion' take exactly?

The cards are dealt and on the table, no firearm is safe from review and reclassification. This will only stop with the total dismantling and re-draft of the firearms act. Otherwise even if this is pushed back to pre-Feb 26 2014 classifications it will just happen again when a new government is in power.
 
Hey.....here's an idea,

why don't we not start threads discussing what guns we think they could go after next!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
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