Blaze Orange

It's comical how your ignorance/ego leads you to believe you're superior to eastern hunters simply because we're legally required to wear orange for a small portion of the season.

It's comical how my slack-jawed awe, at least on par with my reaction to listening to Trudeau or Ocasio-Cortez speak, at the stupid things I continually hear about from guys out East, gets turned around to being somehow that I think I am better than them.
Y'all oughtta curb yer enthusiasm a bit and go read who exactly, is claiming they feel safer for being dressed as a pumpkin, for one, or who is being told by who, that they would not last a season wearing a particular hat.

Just thanking my lucky stars for not being surrounded by retards!
 
And that's what I have done many times...

Where I hunt in ONT now is private property. With the same 3-4 guys for 30 years. We see a few deer, never see any people. It's great.

When I have gone out west (all in the USA - WY, MT, NB, NM) I only wore camo and never felt uncomfortable.
As Ardent said, we had to make sure the Elk met certain conditions, so shooting anything was the last thing on your mind - getting a good look at it through some good glass was the FIRST thing you wanted to do so you could make your decision to shoot or not.

Shooting at antelope you are very careful, as generally the does are mingling around the trophy buck you are trying to get and you need to make sure you dont clip a doe with your shot.
Shooting mulies is much the same, you will see lots of them so you look them over to make sure this is the one to shoot.

WE NEVER did that in ONT. You see a deer you shoot the deer....you might only see one.

When I went deer hunting in MI, PA, WI everyone wears Orange, and for good reason. Tons of hunters, shooting at everything, and a good number of them piss drunk.
A season doesn't pass in MI where a hunter isn't shot and killed.

The hunting conditions affect the need for Orange. Looking at an elk 500 m away is vastly different than driving a swamp trying to push deer out.

I think the hunting style & conditions and abundance (or lack) of game make a big difference in the need for Orange

Reflects my experiences hearing from American hunters from the eastern US guiding. It’s a way different show. I also am fully aware everything East of the rocks can’t be painted with the same brush, having hunted and worked with great Ontarians (Hoyt, nmo, others) and flatlanders that are better than I am. But on pure statistics, things change in certain parts of this continent for hunters getting shot. I honestly can’t recall the last BC hunter shot by another hunter in a case of mistaken identity, and a ton of hunting happens in BC. I remember a dog misidentified as a wolf, and a client on a Grizzly hunt shot by the guide during a charge. Even google makes it hard to find the last one, not so when you search further East you can take your pick of reports.

In the end the single biggest factor will always be target identification, the culture here is to glass, and as mentioned most hunters have far more money in glass than guns on them that I hunt with. That may stem from the regs and requirements for legal animals, even in zones with plenty and over the counter tags it’s normal to have point / size / ### regs, but I think it’s just the culture.
 
Was the guy that got shot wearing orange ?

Never said but I would say yes. What some guys don't understand and it happened some years ago
No orange on and required and get killed hunting your insurance company will not pay your mama your life insurance
That alone is reason to wear IMO
Cheers
 
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It's really interesting to see the different perspectives on hunting across the country. Never mind just the blaze orange debate, but hunting styles in general.

I started hunting when I lived in BC. I learned to hunt like Ardent; copious amounts of glassing, lots of miles on the boots, and in remote areas. When I moved to AB, it was a totally different game. It really seems like, with some exceptions, the norm is driving around the range roads drinking coffee until you see something in a field, bailing out, spending 10 seconds making sure it's legal and then everyone pounding away until it drops. Minimal glassing, really long shots, often multiple shooters on a single deer. Could be just the Grande Prairie region and the people I've talked to and been out with, but that's what I see here. I've also hunted with family in SK and they hunt from tree stands or blinds on the edges of fields with shots being relatively close.

I can't stand the AB way and I get bored doing it the SK way. If I had to hunt a small area by doing a deer drive with a bunch of other guys, I wouldn't even hunt at all. That's personal preference though and you gotta hunt the way your local area and regulations permit. I don't think one method makes anyone morally superior to another.

Now as for blaze orange, I'll wear it when the regs require it. Sask does, or at least did when I hunted with family there. AB doesn't require it but I'll wear it when walking into or out of an area with high traffic since I know many in my region are prone to blasting away at movement. I don't wear it at all in BC since I don't feel the need to, primarily to the glassing culture and low pressure areas I hunt.
 
It's comical how my slack-jawed awe, at least on par with my reaction to listening to Trudeau or Ocasio-Cortez speak, at the stupid things I continually hear about from guys out East, gets turned around to being somehow that I think I am better than them.
Y'all oughtta curb yer enthusiasm a bit and go read who exactly, is claiming they feel safer for being dressed as a pumpkin, for one, or who is being told by who, that they would not last a season wearing a particular hat.

Just thanking my lucky stars for not being surrounded by retards!


f:P:
 
Interesting

Nova Scotia (55,280 km²) is 0.08 times as big as Alberta (661,850 km²) but in 2018 we had 43% of the Alberta hunting licence numbers.
No dam wonder you guys don't see any one LOL
Cheers
 
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It's really interesting to see the different perspectives on hunting across the country. Never mind just the blaze orange debate, but hunting styles in general.

I started hunting when I lived in BC. I learned to hunt like Ardent; copious amounts of glassing, lots of miles on the boots, and in remote areas. When I moved to AB, it was a totally different game. It really seems like, with some exceptions, the norm is driving around the range roads drinking coffee until you see something in a field, bailing out, spending 10 seconds making sure it's legal and then everyone pounding away until it drops. Minimal glassing, really long shots, often multiple shooters on a single deer. Could be just the Grande Prairie region and the people I've talked to and been out with, but that's what I see here. I've also hunted with family in SK and they hunt from tree stands or blinds on the edges of fields with shots being relatively close.

I can't stand the AB way and I get bored doing it the SK way. If I had to hunt a small area by doing a deer drive with a bunch of other guys, I wouldn't even hunt at all. That's personal preference though and you gotta hunt the way your local area and regulations permit. I don't think one method makes anyone morally superior to another.

Now as for blaze orange, I'll wear it when the regs require it. Sask does, or at least did when I hunted with family there. AB doesn't require it but I'll wear it when walking into or out of an area with high traffic since I know many in my region are prone to blasting away at movement. I don't wear it at all in BC since I don't feel the need to, primarily to the glassing culture and low pressure areas I hunt.

I spent the last thirty years pretty much evenly split between Sk, Ab, and BC. Didn't have the same experience you did, but knew people that hunted that way, and took pains to avoid being in the same map as them, as much as possible.

Did lots of river valley and bush lot still hunting, as well as a bit of open prairie hunting in South Sask. Did a lot of boreal bush hunting and some camp hunting in Northern Alberta. Spent more time helping newbs get lined up on a first deer here on the property, than actually hunting, since I got back home, but even at that, it's pretty easy to pick and choose who to share a grid square with.
 
It's really interesting to see the different perspectives on hunting across the country. Never mind just the blaze orange debate, but hunting styles in general.

I started hunting when I lived in BC. I learned to hunt like Ardent; copious amounts of glassing, lots of miles on the boots, and in remote areas. When I moved to AB, it was a totally different game. It really seems like, with some exceptions, the norm is driving around the range roads drinking coffee until you see something in a field, bailing out, spending 10 seconds making sure it's legal and then everyone pounding away until it drops. Minimal glassing, really long shots, often multiple shooters on a single deer. Could be just the Grande Prairie region and the people I've talked to and been out with, but that's what I see here. I've also hunted with family in SK and they hunt from tree stands or blinds on the edges of fields with shots being relatively close.

I can't stand the AB way and I get bored doing it the SK way. If I had to hunt a small area by doing a deer drive with a bunch of other guys, I wouldn't even hunt at all. That's personal preference though and you gotta hunt the way your local area and regulations permit. I don't think one method makes anyone morally superior to another.

Now as for blaze orange, I'll wear it when the regs require it. Sask does, or at least did when I hunted with family there. AB doesn't require it but I'll wear it when walking into or out of an area with high traffic since I know many in my region are prone to blasting away at movement. I don't wear it at all in BC since I don't feel the need to, primarily to the glassing culture and low pressure areas I hunt.



Good observations, we spent some years in Northern Alberta and experienced the same, it was a surprise, but I gladly went out with locals as that was the way there. It’s trucks, and if roughing it quads and side by’s, some blinds with propane heaters. Then I spent a year in the foothills around Millarville, we still own land there we rent out, and I hunted our own place for whitetail so can’t comment on the general area and methods. But there’s a lot more gunfire in season there than I’ve ever heard elsewhere, which struck me as odd as fantastic mountain hunting was just a short drive away.

We lived in Grande Cache for awhile and Wilmore was much like BC hunting, horses and boots as no powered transport is allowed in Wilmore. Outside the park it very much was not like BC with guys looking for sheep and elk around the mine, it was the Wild West, and I just avoided it and only went in there once. I like the BC mountain way from my small sampling of methods personally, much less of a rush, longer trips, in places pretty enough you can happily justify not shooting and still call it a great trip if you only have your own tag to fill.

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Never said but I would say yes. What some guys don't understand and it happened some years ago
No orange on and required and get killed hunting your insurance company will not pay your mama your life insurance
That alone is reason to wear IMO
Cheers

I would dispute that my friend.
Being in contravention of a law doesn’t make them less obligated to pay.
I can think of numerous examples.
 
It's really interesting to see the different perspectives on hunting across the country. Never mind just the blaze orange debate, but hunting styles in general.

I started hunting when I lived in BC. I learned to hunt like Ardent; copious amounts of glassing, lots of miles on the boots, and in remote areas. When I moved to AB, it was a totally different game. It really seems like, with some exceptions, the norm is driving around the range roads drinking coffee until you see something in a field, bailing out, spending 10 seconds making sure it's legal and then everyone pounding away until it drops. Minimal glassing, really long shots, often multiple shooters on a single deer. Could be just the Grande Prairie region and the people I've talked to and been out with, but that's what I see here. I've also hunted with family in SK and they hunt from tree stands or blinds on the edges of fields with shots being relatively close.

I can't stand the AB way and I get bored doing it the SK way. If I had to hunt a small area by doing a deer drive with a bunch of other guys, I wouldn't even hunt at all. That's personal preference though and you gotta hunt the way your local area and regulations permit. I don't think one method makes anyone morally superior to another.

Now as for blaze orange, I'll wear it when the regs require it. Sask does, or at least did when I hunted with family there. AB doesn't require it but I'll wear it when walking into or out of an area with high traffic since I know many in my region are prone to blasting away at movement. I don't wear it at all in BC since I don't feel the need to, primarily to the glassing culture and low pressure areas I hunt.

I grew up in Saskatchewan, hunting open fields, and many longer shots. I moved to Alberta, and I have hunted the same way, as well as spot an stalk. I hunted in Manitoba with a fiend, using the same techniques. There are many different hunting methods used in each province. In Saskatchewan we usually wore white jackets and pants, and a red cap. In Alberta it was an orange coat when required, then whatever was comfortable, when the requirement was dropped. In Manitoba it was an orange coat. I never felt more or less safe depending on how I dressed.
 
I would dispute that my friend.
Being in contravention of a law doesn’t make them less obligated to pay.
I can think of numerous examples.

Would love to hear them. If you’re driving drunk insurance Is void in Ontario at least. Ive read not following the law exclusions in policy other than that but that is the only one I remember off the top of my head

As for orange. Absolutely in Ontario wouldn’t feel safe without it in many areas. For the hunting I’ve done in Alberta not needed. People seem to have a hard time understanding there are a lot of variations across this country. Deer hunt in northern Ontario I can hunt for a week with about 50 yards of visibility and never see a deer. In southern Alberta I don’t think there has been a time in daylight that I couldn’t see a deer it’s just that they were very far away. Both a lot of fun but completely different

It’s just like the BC guys putting down Ontario guys who bait bears. They just don’t have a clue what they are talking about but sure love to prove their ignorance by adding an opinion none the less
 
Would love to hear them. If you’re driving drunk insurance Is void in Ontario at least. Ive read not following the law exclusions in policy other than that but that is the only one I remember off the top of my head

Your car insurance would be void yes. Not your LI.
Even committing suicide they pay, as long as you had the policy past the suicide exclusion (usually 2 yrs)
Unless it’s specifically excluded, they pay.


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So I just read my policy.
The death benefits pay no matter what.
The “accidental death” benefits do not pay if you are driving drunk OR while committing a criminal offence.
Not wearing orange is not a “criminal offence”


Regardless, it’s smart to wear orange out east.
 
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Good observations, we spent some years in Northern Alberta and experienced the same, it was a surprise, but I gladly went out with locals as that was the way there. It’s trucks, and if roughing it quads and side by’s, some blinds with propane heaters. Then I spent a year in the foothills around Millarville, we still own land there we rent out, and I hunted our own place for whitetail so can’t comment on the general area and methods. But there’s a lot more gunfire in season there than I’ve ever heard elsewhere, which struck me as odd as fantastic mountain hunting was just a short drive away.

We lived in Grande Cache for awhile and Wilmore was much like BC hunting, horses and boots as no powered transport is allowed in Wilmore. Outside the park it very much was not like BC with guys looking for sheep and elk around the mine, it was the Wild West, and I just avoided it and only went in there once. I like the BC mountain way from my small sampling of methods personally, much less of a rush, longer trips, in places pretty enough you can happily justify not shooting and still call it a great trip if you only have your own tag to fill.

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I've been eyeballing the Grande Cache area this season, largely due to the similar terrain I hunted in BC. I'm going to be looking for places where I need to hike in though.
 
All of the Wilmore recreation area is foot or hoof access only, it’s true mountain hunting. Been years since I was there but was a great area for elk and sheep if you can put miles on. For a hardcore backpack Bighorn sheep hunt would be stellar, there were packers you could hire for drop and pickup by horse, not sure how it is today. One of my neighbours in GC used to hit the rocks with only 20lbs of gear for a week, came back looking skinny and smiling with a ram, would pack it out as much as 30K.
 
Your car insurance would be void yes. Not your LI.
Even committing suicide they pay, as long as you had the policy past the suicide exclusion (usually 2 yrs)
Unless it’s specifically excluded, they pay.


EDIT
So I just read my policy.
The death benefits pay no matter what.
The “accidental death” benefits do not pay if you are driving drunk OR while committing a criminal offence.
Not wearing orange is not a “criminal offence”


Regardless, it’s smart to wear orange out east.

No sir not all. Now that one I know 100% since I had a BIL unfortunately leave us. Some if after 2 years yes they pay but not all companies

Per the cooperators
Suicide
Some life insurance policies do allow for the payment of benefits in the event of a suicide if the policy is over two years old, while others don’t cover suicide at any time while the policy is in force.

Here are some helpful resources for people with suicidal thoughts and feelings.

On the not wearing the orange they put it under

Reckless endangerment (e.g. if you die racing a car) In situations like this, you are not covered
Cheers
 
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