Bore Snake damaging barrel?

Bore snake are great for quick clean at the range, i got 3 or 4 of each caliber, when i use one for a reason, i put it in an old pillow case when i get home, then when there is a 12 or so in the bag, i close with a tie wrap and wash with heavy soap and hot water in the machine...
I dont drag nothing in my barrel, they are always clean... JP.
 
I used one for the first time last weekend. It was a long one meant for a .22 rifle that I used on a .22 pistol. I wasn't sure if I was supposed to put cleaner (hoppe's 9) on it first or just run it through dry. Anyway, I ran it through dry and it worked fine. I ran an oiled patch through afterwords. At this point in time, I like the snake better than the rod.
 
bearhunter said:
There is only one reason for that muzzle wear and that was improper use of a pull through or dirty bore snake.
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Did someone tell you they had used a snake or pull through, because they are not the only reasons.
People here are getting a little carried away, how many times do people think boresnakes are being used, everyday? The old cord wear issues can be had with a snake, but that tended to come from poor application/use, and a greater amount of use than most people are going to get from a snake, since one was military personel with military rifles, and the other tends to be hunters. Which guns do you think got cleaned more often? In particular sand and grit embedded in the old cords was a real issue, rather than the cord.
Frankly everyone should know that any method can damage your bore if you are ham handed. I have seen muzzles beaten up by people stuffing metal cleaning rods up them, and down them then catching adapters etc on the crown. If you are stupid enough to misuse any cleaning product you can do damage. As for military rifles, consider how many used to have steel cleaning rods issued for them.
Properly cleaned, properly used boresnakes are only as bad as cheap floppy aluminum rods people are stuffing in their bores.
I for one use them for a quick first and second run, to knock out any big chunks, sand, dust etc, before breaking out the rods and brushes.
 
I don't mind the hunters around here using bore snakes. More crowning jobs. ;)

I could show you a few barrels. I have one Rem 700 .308 I replaced a barrel on and asked him how he cleaned it.
There's no way a .308 barrel should be worn out after 200 rds. Of course improper and overzealous use says a lot.
 
bearhunter said:
There is only one reason for that muzzle wear and that was improper use of a pull through or dirty bore snake.
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That is not true, you can ruin a crown just as easy with a rod and bronze brush.

Here is what a Champion shooter has to say about things.

"If you DO use a bronze brush, NEVER drag it back through the muzzle. When dragged backwards, the bristles can fret the delicate crown, causing small scratches that can degrade accuracy. Also, use good brushes. If the bronze bristles are bent or broken they can mar your barrel." Tim North, 2003 1000-yard BR champion, and President of Broughton Rifle Barrels (North Mfg.)

Infact, most champion shooters dont even use bronze brushes and advise against them they use nylon.
 
any moron can damage the crown on their rifle , even with the safest tool for the job.
NONE of my rifles show any signs of this "bore snake" wear some folks are talking about, and yes, I have the correct tools to verify this.
I must be one of the rare exceptions I suppose.
that said I do use the carbon fiber rods and patches for the thorough cleanings after higher volume shooting days
 
I would not use a bore-snake or other pull through cleaning system on any target/varmint rifle. On a milsurp or hunting rifle as a 'field-expedient' I would consider but don't recommend.
 
Tomochan said:
I would not use a bore-snake or other pull through cleaning system on any target/varmint rifle. On a milsurp or hunting rifle as a 'field-expedient' I would consider but don't recommend.
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why is that..... have you personally used a boresnake and subsequently damaged a crown during field expedient use or otherwise?
 
I've worked on stubborn, dark, cruddy, milsurp bores with jags, brushes and patches for an hour. Only to run a single pass through with a solvent soaked snake and have it pick up and clean out all the crap the rod couldn't handle.
The 30 cal snakes are a great cleaning tool IMO. Not the only cleaning tool, just a great one.
 
45ACPKING said:
why is that..... have you personally used a boresnake and subsequently damaged a crown during field expedient use or otherwise?
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I've used a boresnake and not damaged a crown but I still don't recommend it - as a field expedient if you have no other choice then you may have to but, really, it is better to wait until you return home and clean using more appropriate equipment. It would appear that I'm in good company here - see what Guntech wrote that he wouldn't use a boresnake on anything with a rifled barrel. I figure he knows something about rifles.

By the way Tom I am hoping to see some pics of the Timberwolf you said you have - how's is load development coming along ? Are you finding the 250's or the 300's to work best ?
 
I have a bunch of components and some preloads that came with it. I bought it off another CGn'er who's moved out of Canada for work.
to be honest I haven't even shot it yet, still saving for some glass.... and being distracted by too many other wonderful things that have popped up at our dealers these past few months.
when I do get her together and on some targets.... you know I won't be able to not post about it LOL
 
it blows me away. people are worried about a brass brush. when shooting a gun an over sized metal object is being push so hard it leave the rifle at thousands of fps.


but watch out for that small brass brush its a killer.
 
45ACPKING said:
I have a bunch of components and some preloads that came with it. I bought it off another CGn'er who's moved out of Canada for work.
to be honest I haven't even shot it yet, still saving for some glass.... and being distracted by too many other wonderful things that have popped up at our dealers these past few months.
when I do get her together and on some targets.... you know I won't be able to not post about it LOL
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My old .338LM was a 110 BA and that showed a preference for the 300g pills but my T-Wolf seems to digest both 250 and 300's equally well. I also have some 285's that I must play with soon. Looking forward to seeing your results in due course.
 
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