borrowing/renting pistols for action matches

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Hey all,

I've passed my PAL/rPAL courses and while waiting for that, I wanted to ask if it's common for members of a range to loan pistols to other members on match day, and what the best way to go about seeking members who are open to loaning. Obviously, I can't buy a pistol due to C21. I'm wanting to get back into it and despite my new license in the mail, I do have experience and have shot my P210-6 and P226 Sportstock in matches-- the only problem is that they can't come up here and my folks in the US are going to have to continue storing them for me. :/

Barring this, are there any indoor ranges with rentals that do hold matches in Lower mainland BC?

Marek
 
While many will let you take a few shots on the firing lane, finding people to lend you a gun for IPSC, PPC is going to prove very hard.
 
FarmerDanz said:
The idea makes me fume, but what about a business lending to people as a way to get new sporting equipment out there?
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Essentially, the rental shop of an indoor range on wheels. I'd use that service in a heartbeat. But I get it though, kind of helps "prove" the lack of need to own, and that makes me angry too.
 
For any lease deals with a business, the gun would have to be owned by the range and be stored there.

If you can convince your club then the cfo will allow.

Transporting to other ranges for matches can only be done by a club officer.
 
Some licensed drivers borrow or rent a car. Some certified seafarers borrow or rent a boat. Some licensed pilots borrow or rent a plane.

Why would a Canadian firearms licensee - and a registered gun - be any different?
 
Wendell said:
Some licensed drivers borrow or rent a car. Some certified seafarers borrow or rent a boat. Some licensed pilots borrow or rent a plane.

Why would a Canadian firearms licensee - and a registered gun - be any different?
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because it's a gun and that's what makes it different
 
marekkye said:
Hey all,

I've passed my PAL/rPAL courses and while waiting for that, I wanted to ask if it's common for members of a range to loan pistols to other members on match day, and what the best way to go about seeking members who are open to loaning. Obviously, I can't buy a pistol due to C21. I'm wanting to get back into it and despite my new license in the mail, I do have experience and have shot my P210-6 and P226 Sportstock in matches-- the only problem is that they can't come up here and my folks in the US are going to have to continue storing them for me. :/

Barring this, are there any indoor ranges with rentals that do hold matches in Lower mainland BC?

Marek
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Since your folks are in the US, have you investigated moving here yourself?
 
Best bet is join a club that does the style of shooting you want to do. Most clubs have practice nights, go and befriend people.

Or most clubs will have a bulletin board and post your question there.

I'm sure if you go to these practice nights, show up with ammo, and explain. Many will be helpful. Because I know, I've been in other provinces for work, and friends were like there is a LVL 1 match, you want to shoot? Then geared me up.
 
It would be nice to do a long term lease of an FCU. That way I could purchase the pistol i want and keep that with me but have the FCU stay locked up at the range for my exclusive use only, like a a safety deposit box type deal. dunno if its feasible but it would allow me to have a pistol I could use and practice with without having anyone else mess it up.
 
Kimo62 said:
It would be nice to do a long term lease of an FCU. That way I could purchase the pistol i want and keep that with me but have the FCU stay locked up at the range for my exclusive use only, like a a safety deposit box type deal. dunno if its feasible but it would allow me to have a pistol I could use and practice with without having anyone else mess it up.
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Maybe there are more elaborate ranges where this would work but at my local range there is nowhere near the level of facilities required to do this.

It is basically a few buildings with almost no security. There isn't even electricity there.
 
FarmerDanz said:
A person can lend a restricted to another licensed person. Why couldn't a business do the same? I wonder what the law says.
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The law doesn't prohibit it but doesn't specify a mechanism for doing it either which means it's up to the cfo.

The cfo will not allow lending from a business where an individual can take the firearm home or transport anywhere.

Borrowing (renting) on premises has been allowed in the past.

Businesses are allowed to transport to ranges but only by employees so if you can make an arrangement (i.e. you are rich) for this then using a rental gun at a competition elsewhere can be made to work...
 
Tbh,

I feel ranges / companies have considered this, but it’s the insurance that kills the idea.

Just a really weird legal world of what ifs, and most insurance companies are likely to not want to this proposition with a 100ft pole
 
KotKotofeich said:
The law doesn't prohibit it but doesn't specify a mechanism for doing it either which means it's up to the cfo.

The cfo will not allow lending from a business where an individual can take the firearm home or transport anywhere.

Borrowing (renting) on premises has been allowed in the past.

Businesses are allowed to transport to ranges but only by employees so if you can make an arrangement (i.e. you are rich) for this then using a rental gun at a competition elsewhere can be made to work...
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I have a friend who has a pistol on loan from a business. The CFO added it to his ATT and he is allowed to store it at his home so it is possible.
 
I cant see how any of this is legal in todays environment..."transfer of a pistol" is illegal and to me "transfer & lend are synonymous and mean the same. I know lending used to be common especially in husband-wife handgun ownership & usage but my take on the newest edict by Herr Turd could cause a court hearing.
 
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