Bought my first Milsurp Mosin, quick oiling question.

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I bought a Mosin Nagant from Westrifle (In really good shape btw, highly recommend them). This is my first firearm and I had some questions regarding cleaning.

I have an aerosol can of Krown T-40 rust inhibiting / protecting / lubricating oil for use on cars. I've sworn by this stuff while working on cars! It doesn't evaporate, goes on nice and thin, and creeps in to crevices. I was wondering if I could spray this on a patch and run it down the barrel just as a protecting oil while the rifle is being stored and run a dry patch through it before I shoot it?

Let me know, if not, I'll have to make a trip to LeBarons or see if CT has something I could use.
 
you realize Russians often used things like diesel and motor oil on these and other great soviet rifles, right? :p You can lubricate and protect the whole rifle with it so long as it doesnt attack the finish, and I guaruntee you there will be a few people on here that just use stuff like motor oil and the like and never have problems. Its good steel and hardened properly, it will take more abuse than you can dish out. Just dont expect it to jam anytime soon haha. They are one of the best bolt guns ever made, reliable till the end thru hell and back so yeah, if it lubricates and protects, it works in a mosin. Enjoy your new rifle, they are tons of fun and well worth the price of admission. And FWIW I run a wet patch of either gun oil or barricade down the bore of all my non-chrome lined rifles and shotguns for storage, and dry patch it out before I go to the range. Its good insurance to prevent rust in the bore.
 
Thanks guys! I'll post up pictures of it when I get the chance; I'd like to refinish the stock this coming summer and find a way to blacken some of the steel that has chipped / worn.

We had one of these rifles at our farm in Poland but after many years of neglect, the barrel literally rusted shut and the wood became no better than drift wood.

I was also going to ask, I've read about this CLP Break Free stuff that apparently works wonders, but I can't find any of the vendors on CGN that carry it.

Any ideas where I could find this stuff other than going to the Buffalo gun centre and bring some back up across the border.
 
steve1479 said:
Thanks guys! I'll post up pictures of it when I get the chance; I'd like to refinish the stock this coming summer and find a way to blacken some of the steel that has chipped / worn.

We had one of these rifles at our farm in Poland but after many years of neglect, the barrel literally rusted shut and the wood became no better than drift wood.

I was also going to ask, I've read about this CLP Break Free stuff that apparently works wonders, but I can't find any of the vendors on CGN that carry it.

Any ideas where I could find this stuff other than going to the Buffalo gun centre and bring some back up across the border.
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Depending on how clean your new gun is (Congratulations by the way) I like butchs bore shine. CLP is alright I used it in the army but those firearms don't get as dirty as your mosin could be and clp doesn't cut through crap like butches does. But get a jag whatever solvent you get it really speeds up matters. And you will need a way long cleaning rod to clean from the breach end. Happy shooting
 
Just be mindful that whatever you use doesn't hurt the wood stock.

Conventional motor oil breaks down the wood particles, where as synthetic will not - just wanted to share that with you.
 
mhowarth said:
Just be mindful that whatever you use doesn't hurt the wood stock.

Conventional motor oil breaks down the wood particles, where as synthetic will not - just wanted to share that with you.
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:agree: thats a good point, hydrocarbons can be pretty brutal. FWIW a 36" rod reaches the muzzle with ease when cleaning a 91/30 from the breach. Some of the better bore solvents Ive found are wipeout with accelerator and M pro7 bore gel. For some reason though M pro7 copper remover just is not working for me. The bore gel gets right down to it quick, pulling copper in just a few minutes. A good bore cleaner will make cleaning the mosin less frustrating as they had alot of machining marks in the bore that make them foul quick and a ##### to clean. Westrifle is pretty much forcing me to buy another one with their low prices and good customer service...who does that anymore? :p This time I want the darkest solid birch stock round reciever Mosin they got...:dancingbanana:
 
This was the darkest one I found at Westrifle.
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That's a nice looking Mosin you posted up there!

My Mosin is pretty damned clean considering some of the ones I've seen out there. The bore is nice and fresh, all numbers matching, and looks good overall.

I bought Hoppes No.9 and ran that through the barrel a few times after stripping the rifle for cosmoline removal and it came out pretty black. It's clean right now, I just don't feel too well over leaving the rifle sitting without any sort of oil in the barrel to prevent corrosion.

Good point about motor oil and diesel, I knew that the Russians were in harsh times back then but I didn't know it was that rough :p

Also, if it makes any difference, I don't fire surplus ammo through it. Only the non-corrosive MFS rounds.

I'll save the corrosive rounds for my SKS when I get it :p
 
A LOT of armies issued wierd stuff for their rifles. Brits issued Rangoon Oil for their rifles: something like about a 20weight. Canada issued Sewing Machine Oil and Typewriter Oil for the Number 4. God Himself only knows what those poor old Sniders had to endure!

MN is a good military rifle: tough, powerful, accurate. The fact that they are stiff to operate is in the basic design, as is the fact that they are about as ergonomic as a 2x6.

But they WORK in 30 below.... and in 40 below..... and in 50 below...... and there are VERY few weapons that you can say that for. I used to work with a fellow who was in the Waffen-SS. When the '34s and the Kar98s froze up in that awful first winter, he told me that they took their knives and "went over to Ivan.... and got some guns that would work in the cold". And yes, he had the Frozen Meat Order and a few others to prove that he had been there; he was "a man who could take off his overcoat in public".

Despite being too clunky and much too long, the MN is one of the very best.
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After this post I can stop advertising :)

Any way you are apsolutely right Mosin works in - 50 Celsius as well as SKS and SVT. That is why many Inuit order from Yukon and North West territories. I also have many requests from Alaska but I can only ship Mosin to USA :{



Cheers

smellie said:
A LOT of armies issued wierd stuff for their rifles. Brits issued Rangoon Oil for their rifles: something like about a 20weight. Canada issued Sewing Machine Oil and Typewriter Oil for the Number 4. God Himself only knows what those poor old Sniders had to endure!

MN is a good military rifle: tough, powerful, accurate. The fact that they are stiff to operate is in the basic design, as is the fact that they are about as ergonomic as a 2x6.

But they WORK in 30 below.... and in 40 below..... and in 50 below...... and there are VERY few weapons that you can say that for. I used to work with a fellow who was in the Waffen-SS. When the '34s and the Kar98s froze up in that awful first winter, he told me that they took their knives and "went over to Ivan.... and got some guns that would work in the cold". And yes, he had the Frozen Meat Order and a few others to prove that he had been there; he was "a man who could take off his overcoat in public".

Despite being too clunky and much too long, the MN is one of the very best.
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Mauser k98

Is there anywhere in canada that sells k98 mausers?

got a mosin negant 91/30 looking to add to the collection
 
Update:

I tried the Krown T-32 / T-40 car lubricant and it works like a dream!

Sprayed it over the bolt assembly, down the barrel, the interrupter, everything and let it seep in.

The rifle cycles amazingly! Highly suggest it as a cheap alternative to other oils for you guys.
 
supernova said:
you realize Russians often used things like diesel and motor oil on these and other great soviet rifles, right? :p You can lubricate and protect the whole rifle with it so long as it doesnt attack the finish, and I guaruntee you there will be a few people on here that just use stuff like motor oil and the like and never have problems. Its good steel and hardened properly, it will take more abuse than you can dish out. Just dont expect it to jam anytime soon haha. They are one of the best bolt guns ever made, reliable till the end thru hell and back so yeah, if it lubricates and protects, it works in a mosin. Enjoy your new rifle, they are tons of fun and well worth the price of admission. And FWIW I run a wet patch of either gun oil or barricade down the bore of all my non-chrome lined rifles and shotguns for storage, and dry patch it out before I go to the range. Its good insurance to prevent rust in the bore.
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My Polish M44's lube bottle came with what appears to be gear oil on one side (thick,cobwebs between fingers,smells like old socks) and some rusty. Yellow solvent on the other side (smelled like old paint brushes).
 
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