brand new M305 slam fire

For your info (and pride)

I checked this post related regards doubling and tripling

http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php/91174-M14-M305-M1A-Test-after-assembly

And surprise, I found my rifle doesn’t pass this proposed test!

I mean, If you pull back the action and release it WITH trigger keep pressed (the hammer mounts), then when you slowly release the trigger the rifle’s hammer activates (if it is loaded it will fire!)

Thanks for your precise advice

pd: I just received an email from Frontier Customer support
 
estampidate said:
For your info (and pride)

I checked this post related regards doubling and tripling

http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php/91174-M14-M305-M1A-Test-after-assembly

And surprise, I found my rifle doesn’t pass this proposed test!

I mean, If you pull back the action and release it WITH trigger keep pressed (the hammer mounts), then when you slowly release the trigger the rifle’s hammer activates (if it is loaded it will fire!)

Thanks for your precise advice

pd: I just received an email from Frontier Customer support
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Good work. If you take the trigger assembly out to watch what's happening and #### the hammer with the trigger held back, it should catch on the lower hooks, and then when you release it it should catch on the upper hooks (not sure the specific names) but it sounds like yours isn't catching the second set of hooks on reset. What did Frontier say?
 
The Baby Wolf said:
Ya after all the years of the interweb being around I guess I thought I would try here first for the very first time ever to participate.

Because with all the other ways to learn in this world I know CGN will be the purveyor of all knowledge.

And I can tell by your timely post that your full of "knowledge"

Nothing but GOLDEN.

I guess the term Wally is really true.

Sorry what dealership was it in Sask I should buy my Chevy?

Oh ya not your Dealership.
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Sorry to offend you so quickly and easily. Was not my intent other than making a bit of a wise a$$ comment. Figured you wouldn't be too put off by it. Glad you saw it right to apologize to Thomas, as we all are just looking out for one of our own who has offered us all advice at one time or another which turned out to be correct in my cases.
 
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45ACPKING / M14Doctor / Thomas has forgotten more about the m14 / m1a / m305 platform than most of us can hope to learn. I have had the pleasure of attending a couple of his clinics ( sadly on hiatus, hint, hint ) and he is truly the Canadian expert. Enjoy your Corona, Thomas!

His advice you can take to the bank!
 
RobertMcC said:
Sorry I just find it hard to believe to trust someone who says no it cant, then yes it can. Then don't listen to internet advice. Just makes ya sound full of your self. There my semi CGN insult. Sounds almost like a politician.
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He didn't say it can't cause slam fires. he said it can't cause multiple slam fires in a string so consistently. That said though i too would, assuming that i don't have any knowledge regarding the platform and the problem, clean and test again first before returning. Cleaning the firing pin channel shouldn't require any in depth knowledge nor would it constitute modifying the rifle. Once cleanliness is removed from the equation and the problem persists then you know it's a mechanical issue and should fiddle no further and return it. but on the other hand having the information given by the OP and 45ACPKING's reputation around here, i'd say he's probably right in assuming the problem is mechanical.
 
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Far more likely to be operator failure and you're doing exactly what smak_daddy did. Common thing with M305/M1A's, especially with new shooters off a bench.
It's caused by not following through on the shot and you pull the trigger more than once. It's fixed by holding the trigger back until the rifle is finished recoiling.
Slam fires are not caused by the rifle. They're caused by improperly loaded ammo. Highly unlikely in this case,
 
walleyed99 said:
Sorry to offend you so quickly and easily. Was not my intent other than making a bit of a wise a$$ comment. Figured you wouldn't be too put off by it. Glad you saw it right to apologize to Thomas, as we all are just looking out for one of our own who has offered us all advice at one time or another which turned out to be correct in my cases.
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Understood
 
sunray said:
Far more likely to be operator failure and you're doing exactly what smak_daddy did. Common thing with M305/M1A's, especially with new shooters off a bench.
It's caused by not following through on the shot and you pull the trigger more than once. It's fixed by holding the trigger back until the rifle is finished recoiling.
Slam fires are not caused by the rifle. They're caused by improperly loaded ammo. Highly unlikely in this case,
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Thanks for your opinion. Let me say a simple test showed the real cause of the problem: Trigger group defective

With unloaded rifle, if you pull back the action and then release it WITH trigger pressed, when you release the trigger the hammer goes down (like an automatic mode)

It was NOT solid grease, cleaning, full moon or improper operation :)
 
Pop said:
Good work. If you take the trigger assembly out to watch what's happening and #### the hammer with the trigger held back, it should catch on the lower hooks, and then when you release it it should catch on the upper hooks (not sure the specific names) but it sounds like yours isn't catching the second set of hooks on reset. What did Frontier say?
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Yes, precisely this situation you mentioned is happening, when the trigger is keep pressed, hammer is captured by a hook but when it is released it runs free (invoking a next shoot) in pace to be caught by upper hook

I suppose exposure to this kinds of situations (and sharing them) will be convert us an a expert as ACP45KING is :)
 
Take it back, its dangerous and unpredictable....a bad combo with firearms...
If its new the guys you got it from should take care of you.
 
When you buy a ####ty Norinco product you should expect failures, fit and finish, quality of metal in manufacturing. Your not going to buy a Norico now and sell it for a premium later. Norinco is for people who can't save
 
The Baby Wolf said:
When you buy a ####ty Norinco product you should expect failures, fit and finish, quality of metal in manufacturing. Your not going to buy a Norico now and sell it for a premium later. Norinco is for people who can't save
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You're quite the expert already, aren't you? The truth of the matter is that Norinco has been known for making FORGED M14 receivers, which are stronger, and tend to be closer to USGI specs than some American manufacturers that I won't mention. Also, the Norinco 1911s are highly sought after south of the border due to the strength of the steel. But it doesn't matter what I tell you, YOU'RE the expert here...
 
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