brand new M305 slam fire

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I have to tell that finally today July Saturday 11, I came to Silverdale Range (St. Anns Ontario) to test my birthday present: a new M305.

I got 2 Barnaul 7,62x51 FMJ boxes ammo from Lanz shooting supply (shop inside the range)

Well the sad story is my rifle suffers of slam fire!

I mean, with 5,4,3 or 2 rounds on magazine, it loads perfect but in my first try it shoots 2-3 cartridges at time!

I depleted 20 shoot box on my tests and I am sure it is a continuous failure (it is not random). I also test rounds for another box of the same ammo....

I tested both magazines (short and large) same result. Rifle shoots perfectly one by one round (and it is precise)

I discard ammo as a reason because on range was a shooter with similar rifle using same ammo without any problem.

Also I checked with store clerk about this issue and he said he sold this ammo for other shooters with Norenco M14/M305 rifles all the times

Then I consulted a gunsmith by phone and his advice was contact Frontier guys (where I goy it)

I will appreciated any suggestion to cheer me up :(
 
contact frontier guys where you got it?
that's what I would do with a brand new one that does that.
it is unsafe and defective. don't try and fix it with internet advice.
have it exchanged for a new one
 
It's Friday - Just saying.

I saw a guy at silverdale last fall with the same gun and the same problem although his was just doubling. I don't know what became of it as he put it back in his truck and stopped shooting. Frontier should be replacing it as it is a sever safety issue,
 
I had a M1A Super Match that I thought was slam firing. Turns out I was shooting off the bench and the gun was recoiling coming back and shooting again because my hold was loose.
 
Whenever I fire my SKS I first load 1 round in the magazine, close the action and fire it.

I then load 2 rounds into the magazine, close the action and fire it.

After that I load the magazine with 5 rounds.
 
the grease in the firing pin hole isn't gonna cause doubling, tripling, quadrupling, quintupling LOL or whatever.

seriously, take it back, end of story...

next question?
 
45ACPKING said:
the grease in the firing pin hole isn't gonna cause doubling, tripling, quadrupling, quintupling LOL or whatever.

seriously, take it back, end of story...

next question?
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it can cause a stuck firing pin(this is why we clean the sks firing pin channel) and that in turn can cause slam fires the bolt acts like that of the sten at that point the firing pin pushes into the primer and sets it off
 
antiqueguy said:
it can cause a stuck firing pin(this is why we clean the sks firing pin channel) and that in turn can cause slam fires the bolt acts like that of the sten at that point the firing pin pushes into the primer and sets it off
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I know LOL
but, some would also say that, I know these rifles from front to back and inside and out...... upside down and sideways......... and I would humbly suggest to the OP to exchange it :)
 
45ACPKING said:
I know LOL
but, some would also say that, I know these rifles from front to back and inside and out...... upside down and sideways......... and I would humbly suggest to the OP to exchange it :)
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so do I since I "sold" my cz858 i bought a m305 next best thing to a ak/cz858 that has a rock away mag(my preferred type of gun)
 
45ACPKING said:
I know LOL
but, some would also say that, I know these rifles from front to back and inside and out...... upside down and sideways......... and I would humbly suggest to the OP to exchange it :)
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Nah, he's being humble. Not many guys on here know these babies better than he does. Hungry comes close though....
 
45ACPKING said:
I know LOL
but, some would also say that, I know these rifles from front to back and inside and out...... upside down and sideways......... and I would humbly suggest to the OP to exchange it :)
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And I owed a M1A years before everybody was running M305, so? Simple observation. If MANY are being returned for double firing, Maybe the shop who's selling them and cleaning the grease off them are not doing the best of the job ( even if you soak something, blow out the crud, #### still gonna get trapped because no place for it to go ) or the OP ain't and assuming. If there is grease or shavings in the channel. The firing pin is gonna stick. Saves the shop inspecting it and if say was grease in it, causing the pin to stick, make the OP embarrassed.

Simple logical observation... I bought a rifle before that wasn't cleaned after the machining process and was tones of metal shavings all in it. I also had a brand new issued rifle, we didnt have time from being issued to hitting the range to fully clean the packing goo off it, and plently of brand new rifles had issue.

Automatically people assume its broken, return it, but did the op check the function first? Everybody knows how much chinese like to store stuff in grease.
 
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RobertMcC said:
And I owed a M1A years before everybody was running M305, so? Simple observation. If MANY are being returned for double firing, Maybe the shop who's selling them and cleaning the grease off them are not doing the best of the job. If theres grease in it and firing pin is sticking. Saves the shop inspecting it and if say was grease in it, causing the pin to stick, make the OP embarrassed.
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it's not a pissing contest my friend.
while it's true that foreign matter including grease can impede function of the firing pin..... from the op's post I would conclude that it's better to err on the side of caution and send it back.
there haven't been MANY issues like this reported here and that's why when I read the OP's post and the information he has provided about his problem, AND assuming he is not familiar with the tweaking and tuning and full blown inspections as many here are...... the BEST advice I can offer is to send it back from where it came. the dealer has the choice of finding and fixing a correctable issue or replacement. Should the OP take internet advice to try and tweak and tune his way out of what could be a faulty trigger mechanism, the dealer will do nothing for him after those adjustments have been made.

I'm not trying to ram my advice down anyone's throat, nor am I trying to boast about my hands on experience with the platform and the Chinese rifles especially, that is already well known enough.
take it or leave it, but i'll stick to my original advice to the OP
 
45ACPKING said:
it's not a pissing contest my friend.
while it's true that foreign matter including grease can impede function of the firing pin..... from the op's post I would conclude that it's better to err on the side of caution and send it back.
there haven't been MANY issues like this reported here and that's why when I read the OP's post and the information he has provided about his problem, AND assuming he is not familiar with the tweaking and tuning and full blown inspections as many here are...... the BEST advice I can offer is to send it back from where it came. the dealer has the choice of finding and fixing a correctable issue or replacement. Should the OP take internet advice to try and tweak and tune his way out of what could be a faulty trigger mechanism, the dealer will do nothing for him after those adjustments have been made.

I'm not trying to ram my advice down anyone's throat, nor am I trying to boast about my hands on experience with the platform and the Chinese rifles especially, that is already well known enough.
take it or leave it, but i'll stick to my original advice to the OP
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Never said tweek or tune, all I said are they cleaning out the channels before using the gun? But whos gonna public ally admit they didn't. So your saying you have experience and that grease in the firing pin hole wont cause it to slam fire, but now saying that it can.

All I'm saying try cleaning the channel and take it for a shoot, if that doesn't solve it, then yes return it. But don't automatically assume its broken. Without knowing the WHOLE picture.
 
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