Brass stuck in chamber...

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wasrupzuk

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I was recently gifted an old Win 94 in 38-55 from a friend of an estate.
The gift was due to it being in pieces and believed to be broken.
I went through it and discovered it was actually in good condition (considering its a 1905) and complete.
It was taken apart possibly decades ago due to part of the brass case being stuck in the chamber.
The offending brass is about a centimetre long and approximately a third the circumference and about half way down the chamber.
So I googled what to do (sue me) and tried the cleaning brush reversed pull out...didn’t work.
Then I tried the Cerrosafe method, cast the chamber and punched it out after it was cooled...twice.
Still didn’t work, it sheared the low melt material.
I tried a pick but I don’t want to harm the chamber and I couldn’t get a good bite on it (even ground a pick as a scoop to help).
It’s almost like the offending material has brazed itself to the chamber, that or years of crud hold better than superglue...
So I’m contemplating my next step.
I do not want to harm the gun or it’s patina finish but I want it functional.
I was thinking a reamer would cut it out but the cost and risk have me rattling keys here hoping for an experienced option.
Thanks :)
 
Take a fired 38/55 case and cut the bottom off it... now find a tap that will cut into the inside of that brass but is smaller in diameter than the outside of the brass... screw that tap into the stuck case and use a rod to lightly tap it out...
 
guntech said:
Take a fired 38/55 case and cut the bottom off it... now find a tap that will cut into the inside of that brass but is smaller in diameter than the outside of the brass... screw that tap into the stuck case and use a rod to lightly tap it out...
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Still wrapping my head around this one, coming from you I believe this is the answer but I’ll ponder it for a bit, plus I don’t have any dead brass, just live rounds.
If I read you right the brass tube acts as a guide for the tap to bite into the fragment, once bit just drive it out.
 
wasrupzuk said:
Still wrapping my head around this one, coming from you I believe this is the answer but I’ll ponder it for a bit, plus I don’t have any dead brass, just live rounds.
If I read you right the brass tube acts as a guide for the tap to bite into the fragment, once bit just drive it out.
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No, the bras you cut up, acts as a piece to test the taps against, to find the right one to use. Needs to just bite the brass not the chamber. You want to be on your 'A' game, doing this.

More expensive, but more sure, is to buy or borrow a chamber reamer, and carefully ream out the remains of the brass case. If you don't ruin the reamer, it retains most of it's value when you sell it on.
 
Trevj, if I read right it is just a section of brass, 1/3 of a circle, if the is the case, the tap could hit the other side of the chamber. I think you are going to have make a better pick, or slug.
 
Yeah, gotcha.

Some bronze rod, pounded flat (hardens the bronze) and filed into a chisel tip might be a solution. Catch the edge of the brass and gently tap the rod end with a small hammer.

The reamer sounds better and better though.
 
Because the piece is on the side of the chamber, and not a full ring, a reamer might cut the side opposite the piece stuck in the chamber.

I'd try the bronze chisel, myself.

It would be easier to get at if the barrel were removed from the frame, but seeing as the forend is in place, that isn't happening.
 
IvoB said:
I would soak a patch of Coca-Cola or CLR and run it down to the stuck brass -sounds primitive but it may lossen up the years of oxidation
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Soaking with Kroil is another good alternative to start with. Then perhaps the pick/ chisel made out of a bronze brazing rod would dig it out
 
A 9 mm sub gun broken shell remover ( thinking sten gun ) should help ya . A blast of propane to thermally shock it is a good tactic so is the tap and rod Maneuver . Brass being a softer metal you could possible be able to cut it out with a modified cut down Hacksaw blade and some Patience if your careful and take your time then it should just pry out once the tension is removed .
 
Meroh said:
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My experience tells me that the industrial Loctite brand would be superior to the Canadian tire handy person stuff.
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There I fixed it for you. This is 2015 after all. (Well, give or take a few years and another few million brain cells lost deciding on which socks to wear.)
 
Had exactly the same thing with a Mauser C96 I bought.

Ring of brass stuck in chamber.

Took about 3 hours of thinking and 15 minutes of doing.

None of the other methods worked.....

It was in there good and deep only about a 7mm ring of brass.

Nothing would move it.

You need to find (best) or make (likely outcome) part of the brass you can bend and deform into the middle of the chamber.

First look if there is any brass inside you can push in or separate from the edge of the firearm with a non marring tool.

You are trying to deform the brass inside enough by pushing it away from the edges so that a cleaning rod pushed in from the barrel will have enough to push against.

Look carefull inside if there are any edges that are not flush or any imperfections or wider bits.

Those you will have to work on with non marring edges you can get inside and that will not harm the metal of the firearm but are enough to bend the brass.

Idea is the end of a brass screw driver (one came with my Otis cleaning kit), brass cleaning rod (you will wreck the rod if you are using a threaded end BTW) or hard plastic.

If you can find an edge like that tap on it until it starts to move further away from the outside and work on it slowly so it does not break off but expand it and keep pushing to make a larger bend etc.

Once large enough a cleaning rod will pop that sucker right out no problem with one push.

Now that is the easy scenario.

More likely is there have been multiple attempts to remove it and there will not be any rough edges or edges that stick out they have been alrady smoothed out .

Ok, here is the hard part. You are going to need something hard. You will have to be careful.

I ended up using a long stainless steel letter opener with a very fine edge. Very carefully pushed in and placed against the very edge of the brass.

Put it in a vice and arrange a strong light to shine down so you can see the brass.

Gently tap once. Gently gently. Look to see if you managed to push the brass off the edge of the chamber. Repeat until you do. Can't stress care and patience.

Took about 8 taps for me to get an edge.

Then go to the brass non marring tool and finish the job.

Good Luck!
 
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