Breakin at the The Shooting Edge
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Gona have to side with Ragestation on this one. your facility was comprimised and that is unfortunate. As a community we still support you, but there is no excuse for having those handguns on display after hours. a thief should not be able to force entry on your storage with a hoodie and a baseball bat and make off with 20 friggin guns.
Yay video .... Yet another grainy picture of a blob committing a crime.
Save your money on James Bond crap and put in a gun vault
I agree with you 100%. But the so called armoured cabinets were supposed to keep them safe. So much for the sales pitch. The cabinets only slowed him down.
There was a number of key failures starting with the alarm system and then because of that, all of the subsidiary layers.
We know that.
What has to be done now is a serious analysis of the systems and a plan undertaken to plug the gaps.
We're already on it and until all of the pieces are in place, we are not relying on roving patrols, but a guard on duty from when we close till we open.
JR
I agree with you 100%. But the so called armoured cabinets were supposed to keep them safe. So much for the sales pitch. The cabinets only slowed him down.
There was a number of key failures starting with the alarm system and then because of that, all of the subsidiary layers.
We know that.
What has to be done now is a serious analysis of the systems and a plan undertaken to plug the gaps.
We're already on it and until all of the pieces are in place, we are not relying on roving patrols, but a guard on duty from when we close till we open.
JR
Locking up all of the handguns every night is not practical. I know because we used to do it and they get beat up really really fast which is why none of the shops in calgary do it.
After a couple of weeks you have to start discounting them because of scratches and nicks.
What we need to find is a reasonable alternative.
Any suggestions are welcome.
JR
After a couple of weeks you have to start discounting them because of scratches and nicks.
What we need to find is a reasonable alternative.
Any suggestions are welcome.
JR
I'm not here to criticize like some of the other posts.
Jewellery stores can move all their product into safes. So that doesn't make much sense that a couple dozen handguns can't also be moved.
However, "buying into sales pitches" really comes across like no one did their own homework. I would suggest some measures but it sounds like the store is already committed to upgrades. All I can suggest is that consideration be given to a layered approach to deter theft. As has been proven, thieves with determination will find a way.
Before people keep hammering TSE, remember this is some result of an As@h):$. In a nicer world, the existing security would have been enough. It's too bad this is going to cost the business so much more to tighten up security.
Jewellery stores can move all their product into safes. So that doesn't make much sense that a couple dozen handguns can't also be moved.
However, "buying into sales pitches" really comes across like no one did their own homework. I would suggest some measures but it sounds like the store is already committed to upgrades. All I can suggest is that consideration be given to a layered approach to deter theft. As has been proven, thieves with determination will find a way.
Before people keep hammering TSE, remember this is some result of an As@h):$. In a nicer world, the existing security would have been enough. It's too bad this is going to cost the business so much more to tighten up security.
Laminated glass in the display case?.... same as a car windshield....
That is not the responsible thing to do. "No comment" is a killer when the CPS are giving interviews and releasing statements after they asked me to be all hush hush.
It is far better to get out in front of it and explain. We have a layered system. Its simply that some critical layers did not work.
JR
Take a look at the display cabinets jewelry stores use, push a button the display drops into the bottom and a steel plate slides in over the top.
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It is better to get out in front of the issue to show that security measures were being taken....if you relie on the media and the public to draw their own conclusions , it is hard to know what conclusions they might draw....plus , it is good to let the criminals know that there will be increased security at the store including security staff on site through the night . CGN is an open firearm forum ; I am sure that there are alot more than just law abiding gun owners using the site....the word of increased security needs to get out....
I cannot believe people are raggin on JR for how the handguns were stored. They were stored legally and the same way many many shops store them. The CFO approved of this method of storage, the insurance company approved of this method of storage, what more do you people want? Having worked in gun shops I agree 100% with his statement about putting them away every night, they get beat up if you do that. In jewelry shops you're dealing with stuff that weighs about 1% or less of a gun, that's sitting on a padded display board. You pick the whole thing up and put it away, not so with guns. When you have a layered system that fails, there isn't much you can do to prevent the theft of your stuff, this is not TSE's fault. It's the fault of the scum bag who stole the stuff.
There are several options for more secure display cases, they are however not inexpensive.
There are bullet resistant glass systems that would be extremely difficult to break into. but are quite expensive and hard to source if damaged.
Welded steel frame cabinets with 19mm tempered glazing and laminated 3m films on both the interior and exterior would be a more cost effective solution and incredibly difficult to break into. there are also multi layer vandalism films you could use on the exterior layer when scratches become an issue.
There are bullet resistant glass systems that would be extremely difficult to break into. but are quite expensive and hard to source if damaged.
Welded steel frame cabinets with 19mm tempered glazing and laminated 3m films on both the interior and exterior would be a more cost effective solution and incredibly difficult to break into. there are also multi layer vandalism films you could use on the exterior layer when scratches become an issue.
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