Bringing primers across the border from the US to Canada

[Mr.Rigpig]

What all is required to get a mailing address in a border town? Just go to post office and request one? I assume there's a charge for this?

 

[SteveB]

Also just be aware that the definition for ammunition was revised several years ago. It used to be ammunition was only ammunition but that was changed in 2018 (??) to read ammunition and any sub-components specifically primers, powder, cases and projectiles. They all needed export permits from US. I am not up to date on any current rules.

 

[MRP]

I suppose they’re as easy as to get as candy across the border wile we’re staving up here.

 

[ted_dent]

Tagged.

 

[rommelrommel]

What all is required to get a mailing address in a border town? Just go to post office and request one? I assume there's a charge for this?

If you have a parcel pickup you can likely use that address. To have somewhere to legally get USPS deliveries (aka letter mail) does cost money.

 

[rommelrommel]

I suppose they’re as easy as to get as candy across the border wile we’re staving up here.

LRP are still pretty scarce. The rest are not bad to find.

 

[bearhunter]

LRP are still pretty scarce. The rest are not bad to find.

I had an email query from an old friend in Washington state, asking me how available LR primers are here in Canada.

It seems they are almost as expensive and scarce as they are in Canada right now.

 

[wannabe]

I had an email query from an old friend in Washington state, asking me how available LR primers are here in Canada.

It seems they are almost as expensive and scarce as they are in Canada right now.

my experience as well

 

[UR2X3M4ME]

If you have a parcel pickup you can likely use that address. To have somewhere to legally get USPS deliveries (aka letter mail) does cost money.

It is indeed what many folks I know do.
But you still have to move the goods from that address to the Cdn border, which is why an export permit is still required. Murphy's law, if you can get "controlled" you will get controlled. Plan accordingly.

 

[rommelrommel]

It is indeed what many folks I know do.
But you still have to move the goods from that address to the Cdn border, which is why an export permit is still required. Murphy's law, if you can get "controlled" you will get controlled. Plan accordingly.

The thread clearly says what requires an export permit and what can fit under the exemptions, but okay.

 

[The Cold Lake Kid]

Do the tobacco shops on the Reserves have an ammo and component aisle yet?

 

[FLHTCUI]

Do the tobacco shops on the Reserves have an ammo and component aisle yet?

You have heard of curb side p/u, well they have cottage side deliveries on the Big Lake on the border ....

 

[kamlooky]

Do the tobacco shops on the Reserves have an ammo and component aisle yet?

............. it's spring. Planting seeds is a gooder thing.

 

[tiriaq]

I will explain it a little further down this post



It is not what I got away with, but what I have researched, emailed both Deprtment of State and of Commerce and had been instructed. I have my own account with BIS as well.

You are 100% correct with ammo purchases cause state laws may come into effect. Another thing to consider is that ammunition and optics are two items that do not have the $500 LVS exception so an export permit is needed at all times.



I will try to explain as clearly as I can. As a non-resident you may apply for export permits but you need to have an address in the US, therefore rendering YOU the exporter.
They also advise you to apply for the export permit while in the US. Components, gun parts, etc...now fall under the Commerce Control List and have a $500 exception (Not on AMMO or Optics though). If you try to apply for the export permit for under $500 you will get a reply that one is not needed. BUT, you need an address and you become the exporter, I cannot stress that enough.



Correct, and you should also see that 0a505 has a LVS exception for under $500



It is not simple but it can be done, it also can be done with powders... Side note, there are no Large Rifle Primers to be had in the US eother

For reference.

 

[stubblejumper]

I will explain it a little further down this post



It is not what I got away with, but what I have researched, emailed both Deprtment of State and of Commerce and had been instructed. I have my own account with BIS as well.

You are 100% correct with ammo purchases cause state laws may come into effect. Another thing to consider is that ammunition and optics are two items that do not have the $500 LVS exception so an export permit is needed at all times.



I will try to explain as clearly as I can. As a non-resident you may apply for export permits but you need to have an address in the US, therefore rendering YOU the exporter.
They also advise you to apply for the export permit while in the US. Components, gun parts, etc...now fall under the Commerce Control List and have a $500 exception (Not on AMMO or Optics though). If you try to apply for the export permit for under $500 you will get a reply that one is not needed. BUT, you need an address and you become the exporter, I cannot stress that enough.



Correct, and you should also see that 0a505 has a LVS exception for under $500



It is not simple but it can be done, it also can be done with powders... Side note, there are no Large Rifle Primers to be had in the US eother

Seeing as how different departments may interpret the regulations differently, have you ever been stopped by Homeland Security with primers/components?

 

[Focus909]

Seeing as how different departments may interpret the regulations differently, have you ever been stopped by Homeland Security with primers/components?

There are no more different departments. It used to be ITAR and Department of State. It is no longer with them for civilian items since 2020. It has all been transferred to Department of Commerce.

 

[stubblejumper]

There are no more different departments. It used to be ITAR and Department of State. It is no longer with them for civilian items since 2020. It has all been transferred to Department of Commerce.

But Homeland Security is running the inspection stations , are they interpreting the regulations the same way as the Department of Commerce?

 

[The Cold Lake Kid]

Latest e-mail from Brownells has Small Pistol Primers for $99.99 per thousand, US of course and they were advertising some powders.
The supply chain may be starting to function again.

 

[blargon]

Seeing as how different departments may interpret the regulations differently, have you ever been stopped by Homeland Security with primers/components?

I've been through homeland security check points near the border 3x, but not with primers or ammo. Play nice with the german sheperds...

 

[stubblejumper]

I've been through homeland security check points near the border 3x, but not with primers or ammo. Play nice with the german sheperds...

And that is why I asked for first hand experiences, Homeland Security may or may not interpret the regulations the way that the Dept of Commerce does.